~~ At wits end! 1990 Suburban PLEASE HELP ~~
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Car: '91 RS Camaro
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~~ At wits end! 1990 Suburban PLEASE HELP ~~
Having issues with a 1990 Suburban TBI 350
Wont run unless MAP is unhooked and throttle is pressed. And its still a fight to keep it running. It will sputter to a stall in less than 5 seconds after release of throttle.
New: O2, MAP, Knock, Plugs x2, wire set, distro, cap, rotor, coil, timing chain, intake gaskets, IAC, fuel filter, egr switch, oil press sending unit, TPS, spark control, fuel sending unit,
Rebuilt TBI, no CATS, no oil in water/no water in oil, checked vacuum lines.
No codes
Wont run unless MAP is unhooked and throttle is pressed. And its still a fight to keep it running. It will sputter to a stall in less than 5 seconds after release of throttle.
New: O2, MAP, Knock, Plugs x2, wire set, distro, cap, rotor, coil, timing chain, intake gaskets, IAC, fuel filter, egr switch, oil press sending unit, TPS, spark control, fuel sending unit,
Rebuilt TBI, no CATS, no oil in water/no water in oil, checked vacuum lines.
No codes
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Re: ~~ At wits end! 1990 Suburban PLEASE HELP ~~
Any troublecodes? what is your fuel pressure? It almost sounds like a fuel issue (as opposed to spark)...
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Car: 1992 RS
Engine: Carbed 350
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.42 posi
Re: ~~ At wits end! 1990 Suburban PLEASE HELP ~~
I know you don't want to hear it - but double check firing order. Check plug wires for continuity (I've often gotten bad wires brand new in the box), make sure they are all securely on the plugs (the terminals inside, not just the boots). Try another MAP sensor - pass on Autozone and Advance, try a AC Delco from CarQuest. All I can think of right off.
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From: OC CA
Car: 75 Beast
Engine: 383 +EBL Flash
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 4.11 with 33"
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From: Okeechobee, Florida
Car: '91 RS Camaro
Engine: 5.0 TBI
Transmission: Manual
Axle/Gears: 3.08
Re: ~~ At wits end! 1990 Suburban PLEASE HELP ~~
Just got the kit last night. Will be checking FP ASAP!
I know you don't want to hear it - but double check firing order. Check plug wires for continuity (I've often gotten bad wires brand new in the box), make sure they are all securely on the plugs (the terminals inside, not just the boots). Try another MAP sensor - pass on Autozone and Advance, try a AC Delco from CarQuest. All I can think of right off.
They are deff secure as we have changed the plugs multiple times and no change has happened.

I should mention the spark plugs had a bit of carbon on them. I always thought if I have a dieing FP then I would run lean, therefor would have white soot buildup on the plugs.
Thanks for the input guys!
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Re: ~~ At wits end! 1990 Suburban PLEASE HELP ~~
Perform Fuel pressure check. The reason for this is that your engine will only run with MAP disconnected and by playing with the throttle. By disconnecting MAP you are forcing ECM into limp mode (setting off MAP high) which tends to provide rich mixture and additional throttle action adds more fuel. Stock TBI needs 13 psi for normal operation, although we have seen some engines run with 6 PSI (like poop, but still run). In high millage cars and trucks fuel pump and in tank plumbing are known failure points. You did replace sending unit, but did you replaced fuel pump and pump output hose??
How is your idle vacuum? Can you measure it?
//RF
How is your idle vacuum? Can you measure it?
//RF
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Engine: 5.0 TBI
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Re: ~~ At wits end! 1990 Suburban PLEASE HELP ~~
Turned out to be the hose from the fuel pump to tank. It was barely on.
Runs great! Thank you guys sooo much!
Runs great! Thank you guys sooo much!
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