High volume oil pump.. good/bad?
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High volume oil pump.. good/bad?
I've heard from some of you that using a high volume pump can be bad.... like, wasting power and other stuff.... inform me please
I'll put in my 2 cents worth... if this is a steet car or even a car that only sees the drap strip on a limited basis..then you dont need a high volume oil pump... i used one on my drag race only car..but it requires a larger oil pan(like a 7 quart) and of course a longer pickup tube.. i was told using one with a stock oil pan may cause it to suck the oil pan dry under high rpm runs..not good.
I suggest a high pressure oil pump.. I assume they still offer those... we called it a Z28 pump years ago.. it has increased oil pressure..not volume.. and be advised.. whenever installing a new oil pump have the pickup tube tack welded to the pump...some after market tubes used a bracket which made sure the tube stayed on..if it does not have this then get it tack welded.. I have heard many cases of a pressed in tube falling off...and that is a engine killer... hope this helps..
Snake
I suggest a high pressure oil pump.. I assume they still offer those... we called it a Z28 pump years ago.. it has increased oil pressure..not volume.. and be advised.. whenever installing a new oil pump have the pickup tube tack welded to the pump...some after market tubes used a bracket which made sure the tube stayed on..if it does not have this then get it tack welded.. I have heard many cases of a pressed in tube falling off...and that is a engine killer... hope this helps..
Snake
your welcome... and when I said Z28 pump.. I didnt mean 3RD gen cars... I think the name came from the first gen Z28 like the "69" Z28 and the 2nd gen LT1...in fact you are correct...
I just checked and SDPC still offers it for $65.00 and guess what... they also advise welding the pickup to the pump... as noted in the tech notes for the pickup screen... good luck..
Snake
I just checked and SDPC still offers it for $65.00 and guess what... they also advise welding the pickup to the pump... as noted in the tech notes for the pickup screen... good luck..
Snake
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Summit offers the M55 pump with the pick up tube welded on. All you need to do to make it high pressure is change the spring to a Mr. Gasket #26 spring. Summits caries both and you will save money too...
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There's no need to run a high-volume oil pump on a street engine.
A stock pump can pump up to 50% of the oil up into the valve covers at high RPM.
Oil pump pressure is determined by the spring tension of the oil press bypass valve.
The white "Z/28" oil pressure relief valve spring will give up to 70 psi when used on a stock pump.
High volume/press pumps also place a much greater load on the distributor drive gear. Really bad news if your running a bronze gear on a roller cam. They also can make the press relief valve stay open which heats the oil and wastes power.
Just get a well built Sealed Power, TRW, or Mellings pump, install the "Z-28" spring, weld/braze the pick-up tube and your done.
Be sure to set the oil pick-up tube so it clears the bottom of the oil pan by 3/8 to 1/2". Modeling clay works good for checking this.
Have the spring out before welding tube to prevent heat damage.
Definately avoid pumps that use a gasket under the gear cover. They are junk.
A stock pump can pump up to 50% of the oil up into the valve covers at high RPM.
Oil pump pressure is determined by the spring tension of the oil press bypass valve.
The white "Z/28" oil pressure relief valve spring will give up to 70 psi when used on a stock pump.
High volume/press pumps also place a much greater load on the distributor drive gear. Really bad news if your running a bronze gear on a roller cam. They also can make the press relief valve stay open which heats the oil and wastes power.
Just get a well built Sealed Power, TRW, or Mellings pump, install the "Z-28" spring, weld/braze the pick-up tube and your done.
Be sure to set the oil pick-up tube so it clears the bottom of the oil pan by 3/8 to 1/2". Modeling clay works good for checking this.
Have the spring out before welding tube to prevent heat damage.
Definately avoid pumps that use a gasket under the gear cover. They are junk.
i'ce used the standard m55 pump and #26 spring in a boat load of SBCs and a few 4.3s. all carry 60 psi or better running and 20-30 at idle hot. i wouldn't be welding the pick up to te pump body. i weld a brace from the pick up and bolt it to the body. lap the cover on a piece of glass maybe.
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I thought I would add, that Jegs also sells a Pickup bracket for those who have no access to a welder. The bracket uses the existing oil pump bolts to hold the pick up on for for good!
It's about time someone made one of these...Drop on a little lock tight, and that sucker isn't moving anywhere.
Ron
It's about time someone made one of these...Drop on a little lock tight, and that sucker isn't moving anywhere.
Ron
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