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new guy here...i need some opinions on this deal asap?? --what do u think?

Old Dec 23, 2000 | 12:11 AM
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new guy here...i need some opinions on this deal asap?? --what do u think?

here is the deal...i am looking at getting rid of my ss and trading down to an 86 iroc. they want 5500 or so...here is a list of mods and new parts..also the engine has 10k, the tranny has 6k, and the rear has 4k. the interior has been redone from the carpet to leather seats..any input is very appreciated..thanksguys 86 Iroc Z-28 355 SBC (350 bored .030 over)
ASCD 3in Cowl hood
Entire car painted BC/CC Flame red as of 8/09/00
Vortec Heads 1.94/1.50 valves
Screw in studs and guide plates
.488/.292 Comp Cams camshaft
Comp Cams Magnum Rocker Arms (long slot, roller tip)
Comp Cams Magnum Pushrods (hardened)
Edelbrock Preformer RPM intake
Holley 750 cfm 4160 converted to 4150
50cc Accel Pump #28 shooter
1 in. "Swirl Torque" spacer
Flat top pistons
Camaro shorty headers
TRUE duels w/ 2, 40 series 2 chamber Flowmasters 2.5 in. pipe all the way back
MSD 6AL
HEI Accel Super Coil 8.8 Accel wires
"Cook" built TH350
Eaton Posi Carrier
Richmond 3.73
New radiator
26,000 lb transmission cooler
Holley "Red" electric fuel pump
New radiator fan
160deg thermostat
New Heater core
New calipers on the front, brake shoes. Roters have been turned
New windsheild (old had scrach)
New nose and front spoiler

Best 1/8 mi. in full street trim: 8.72@83.153



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Old Dec 23, 2000 | 12:58 AM
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So the owner obviously raced the hell out of the car. There is a lot to be said about buying someone elses race car. Who did the work? Was it the owner? Does he know what hes doing? Did he learn it by working on this car? Buy a cheap stocker and do the work yourself. If you buy a race car, or have this guy do the engine, this guy do the tranny, that guy do the suspension, I dont see how you can take much pride in it. Do you pride yourself on how well your TV works? No, why, because all you did was buy it.
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Old Dec 23, 2000 | 01:44 AM
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i would definately not trade down from a 99SS to an 86 iroc. if youre looking at trading down from a 99SS, you need to find something a lot sweeter than that. dont get me wrong, i love my iroc, but i still dont think the trade that youre showing here is worth your while. just my opinion.

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Old Dec 23, 2000 | 09:33 PM
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you won,t be able to get it inspected
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Old Dec 24, 2000 | 01:44 PM
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btt....why wouldnt i be able to get it inspected?? we dont have emissions check in iredell county yet..

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Old Dec 24, 2000 | 03:30 PM
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You are crazy...

I love IROC's and all, but going from a 99 SS to an 86 IROC is insane. The SS is reliable, most likely has good warrenties, gets pretty good gas mileage, and is already pretty darn fast (13.7 is a great street car time, especially for a mostly stock reliable daily driver). With the IROC you are gonna have a completly customized car, that had all kinds of work done to it by god only knows who.

Be careful what you do, and be sure to make the right choice.

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1989 IROC-Z
350c.i. TPI
rebuilt 700R4 with shift kit
3'' Monza Pacesetter cat back exhaust (minus the muffler)[SOUNDS OF THIS ON MY WEBPAGE]
new dual cats
3.23 Posi rear
hypertech chip
under drive pulleys
adjustable fuel pressure regulator
K&N Air Filters
Excalibur alarm, keyless entry and remote start
new:
struts, shocks, bearings, distributor, cap, rotor, alternator, battery, regulator
245 ZR16 50 Tires, Rotors and brake pads all the way around

Go to my webpage to find out more about it.
You can also see pictures, and hear sounds as well.
http://go.to/iroc-z

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Old Dec 24, 2000 | 06:04 PM
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btt...thanks for the replies guys......but for me it is more of a money situation..i do have another car so it wont be a daily driver...it will stay in the garage...i just jumped into the ss. most guys buy something like that have good down payment or cash. i didnt have either..and being at my age(23) just isnt the right car for me now...give me a few more years and it would be a different story. as far as the car, i was just looking for some of the guys who have older irocs to give their opinion on the car, not whether or not i should lose the ss. but thanks for the replies anyways..ben

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Old Dec 25, 2000 | 10:04 AM
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Old Dec 25, 2000 | 10:22 AM
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well you said you dont have emissions yet in your county...maybe they will soon...and now Whitman is head of the EPA she might push for this crap all over the counrty, just like she did here in Jersey. also how did he get true duals on the car? i havent tried it myself but i know most people say its hard if its possible at all. and like the others said, its not so wise to buy someone else's project car...you just dont know all the details about it and how everything is set up. for example i put an electric fan in my car, and if someone else bought it they would have a hard time figuring out how to troubleshoot it, simply because its my own custom install and there is no diagram for it anywhere etc you get what im saying? you are better off building something yourself so you know it inside and out.

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Old Dec 26, 2000 | 03:45 AM
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Well I respect the cash flow situation, and some times you gotta go with the flow, I will say that I love the heck out of the 3rd Gen F bodies, its just that in some aspects youll be stepping down, and yeah man it sucks to spend that kind of money to step down, with that said, I can only say that I agree with the post that said buy stock and build up--unless you know the who's and the where's of all the work on this car with the reputations involved, its a hard call. I will also say that one of my first cars was a 1968 Chevelle SS with a worked 396 big block, and yeah I payed some heavy coin for it--it was beutiful inside and out--anyway the motor died in the Second month I had it, and NO I wasent killing it to death either, when my mechanic pulled it apart he said that who ever had built it had made some crucial mistakes and he was surprised that it ran as long as it did, it broke my heart as well as my bank account to have re-done, I tell ya there is a lesson here....

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350 Goodwrench (NEW LO5)
700R4 Raptor: high performance intermediate billet servo, high performance overdrive billet servo,Mega Valve,13 vane high performance pump,1800 heavy-duty stall converter and a 29 element heavy-duty forward input sprag.
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Old Dec 26, 2000 | 06:25 AM
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Understand the part about the huge car payment. It's tough buying someone elses race car but the hard work is done on the car. The price seems fair if the quality of work is good.
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Old Dec 26, 2000 | 08:36 PM
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btt....all work has been professionally done on the 86 iroc(engine,tranny,interior,rear) and is documented with receipts.

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Old Dec 27, 2000 | 09:02 AM
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btt

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Old Dec 27, 2000 | 10:24 AM
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Instead of "btt"ing the **** out of this topic, maybe you should just buy the car and call it a day ?
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Old Dec 27, 2000 | 11:29 AM
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thanks for your well valued opinion....i just wanted to see if i could get any last minute advice.

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Old Dec 28, 2000 | 10:46 AM
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Originally posted by BnHam812:
thanks for your well valued opinion....

BWahahahha! just found that a bit humorous!
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Old Dec 29, 2000 | 11:48 AM
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If you have to sell that SS I would sell it and hold out for a little while till you found a near perfect IROC Z, with no mods to it what so ever. You could pick one of these up pretty cheap compared to a 99 SS. I think it's always great to find a completely stock vehicle then do your own mods. I speak from experience.
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Old Dec 29, 2000 | 11:50 AM
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If you have to sell that SS I would sell it and hold out for a little while till you found a near perfect IROC Z, with no mods to it what so ever. You could pick one of these up pretty cheap compared to a 99 SS. I think it's always great to find a completely stock vehicle then do your own mods. I speak from experience.
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Old Dec 29, 2000 | 12:06 PM
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I would personally look for something that hasn't been played with by someone else. There are quite a few near-mint condition IROCs out there, and even plenty with a healthy 355 under the hood. Find something you can drive whenever you want, without having to worry about making too much noise, or having every cop in the neighborhood look for you.

A race car is great if you plan on making a serious habit out of it. But even then, I think I'd have to say I'd rather make one out of my own doing instead of buying one that is the product of someone else's hard work. Nothing wrong with it, it just feels better when you know you have a well-oiled machine that works as great as it does because of what your hands have done.

Anyway, I'd look for something between '87 and '90, that is relatively un-touched, with at least a healthy 350, 4-wheel disks, and a near-perfect chassis. Good luck in your search, and let us know how it turns out. - John '89 L98
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