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Old Jan 29, 2004 | 02:13 AM
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Car: 1989 Camaro IROC-Z
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Timing chain vs. Gear Drive...

Which one would be better for a mild build. cam heads intake work, headers, full exhaust. Is it mostly for sound? I have heard cars with really noisy gear drives. Does it help peformance any? last longer than a regular timing chain? Whats the pros/cons here! Thanks fellas


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Old Jan 29, 2004 | 03:01 AM
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I want to know also.

The previous owner put in a "noisy" gear drive. Sounds nice, but I can't imagine anyone who'd want to hear it all the time. I can live with it, but I prefer the full sleeper effect.
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Old Jan 29, 2004 | 04:31 AM
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the gears dont streach,usually installed in old school blower cars they do keep the timing in check,drawback all that friggin noise and the worst part 20+hp loss,seen on a dyno...
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Old Jan 29, 2004 | 04:57 AM
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depends a lot on how you define better, but if it were me i'd run a chain. double roller from cloyes if i was going for all out preformance i'd run a belt drive.
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Old Jan 29, 2004 | 06:45 AM
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No advantage whatsoever to a gear drive in a street motor. There's certainly no California street-legal motor you could build where it would do the slightest bit of good.

The main reason they're so popular is monkey-spank over the noise.

Run a good quality "true roller" (that sounds so stupid.... like "real butter" .... either it is a roller, or it isn't) timing set, not one of the cheap truck chains that looks sort of like a roller but only costs about $20. Those wear and "stretch" worse than a stock-type Link-Belt style of chain.

Cheapest way I know to get a known good quality timing set is a Comp 3100. It's about $45 or so.
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Old Jan 29, 2004 | 07:42 AM
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A gear drive can also trigger the knock sensor as picking up false knock. The car would then pull out timing and you would hurt performance.
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Old Jan 29, 2004 | 09:10 AM
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Alright, sounds like i wont be using the gear drive. Thanks alot for the help guys.
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Old Jan 30, 2004 | 01:04 PM
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Accroding to Cloyes they dont make gear drives for camaros with factory roller cams. The end of the cam has a smaller nose than you average flat tappet cam. So the debate is solved unless you weld the gear drive on.
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Old Jan 30, 2004 | 02:02 PM
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I had a gear drive in my truck engine thats now in the bird. It suited the truck fine but I dident want the noise in this car. I liked it but then again I was use to driving a 300-6 that has a factory gear drive just not as noisy at all speeds.
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Old Jan 30, 2004 | 02:42 PM
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Originally posted by MYBLUZ
Accroding to Cloyes they dont make gear drives for camaros with factory roller cams. The end of the cam has a smaller nose than you average flat tappet cam. So the debate is solved unless you weld the gear drive on.
they might not


but others do.
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Old Jan 30, 2004 | 02:51 PM
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Double roller chain is more than enough for the street. They usually have steel gears (not nylon/aluminum like stock) and a heavy duty double row roller chain.

As far as street motors go, they are a much better choice than a gear drive because they are more than strong enough, cheaper, and less noisy than gears are.
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Old Jan 30, 2004 | 02:56 PM
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Comp cams double roller chain - $32.95 at Summit



This will be more than enough for a street motor, and is far cheaper than a gear drive set.
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Old Jan 30, 2004 | 05:31 PM
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Originally posted by Air_Adam
Comp cams double roller chain - $32.95 at Summit



This will be more than enough for a street motor, and is far cheaper than a gear drive set.
this is what i have in my blazer, along w/XR258HR w/comp roller lifters
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