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Old May 12, 2004 | 03:01 PM
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From: Porsgrunn, Norway
Car: '85 Camaro Z28
Engine: 350 carbed.
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Starter housing split in two. Looking for why

Bought an '86 Z28 with 305 TPI in febuary.
previous owner had changed the starter, so it is less than a year old (looks like it is true, judging from how the thing looks)

Tho, it gave up on me here the other day, so i bolted it off, and found this (see linked images). no wonder it couldnęt get a grip. But, anyone have any clue as to WHY this may have happened, i don't want to wreck another starter.
may naturally have been a material fault, but any clues is appreciated.

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Old May 12, 2004 | 03:08 PM
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Car: 1989 Iroc-Z
Engine: 5.7L TPI
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You are the 2nd person in about a week to post with a cracked starter.
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Old May 12, 2004 | 03:44 PM
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Without seeing the pics(they took too longTry..........
Wrong starter
Worng starter bolt
Bent starter bolt
Loose starter bolt
Dropped starter
Maybe even shims................

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Old May 12, 2004 | 04:07 PM
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Here is a condensed version for easy viewing.
Attached Thumbnails Starter housing split in two. Looking for why-starter1.gif  
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Old May 12, 2004 | 04:09 PM
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second shot
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Old May 12, 2004 | 11:44 PM
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Car: 1982 Trans Am & 1982 Corvette
Engine: L-98 with LO-3 induction. 350 CFI
Transmission: 5 speed and vette has 700r4
Axle/Gears: 373's in T/A .. vette unknown
most break cause the front mounts have been taken off and never replaced
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Old May 12, 2004 | 11:49 PM
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most break cause the front mounts have been taken off and never replaced
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Old May 13, 2004 | 12:09 AM
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Can't see the front of the starter, so I can't tell if it has the stud for the forward mount bracket or not. The previous owner may have put a starter on that didn't use a forward mount bracket when he replaced it.
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Old May 13, 2004 | 05:42 AM
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may have been because of hardwear store bolts instead of starter bolts.
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Old May 13, 2004 | 05:50 AM
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Hmmmm. Those pics look oh too familiar. I posted pics of my starter in a thread I started a little bit back. Mine turned out to be a shimming problem. (Or at least I hope it was a shim problem ) Believe it or not, after numerous starts it is possible for the stress of the starter gear going against the flywheel to crack the housing like that if not properly shimmed. I'm not saying that that is your problem but that was mine. After putting in some shims I haven't had a problem yet. Hope this helps. & Here's the thread if you wanna see my starter
https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=237969
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Old May 13, 2004 | 09:38 AM
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Is your timing ok? or did it backfire on startup? that can put enough torque on the starter to snap the head like that, especially if the brace on the back of the starter isn't there
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Old May 13, 2004 | 09:44 AM
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hmm?
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Old May 13, 2004 | 11:18 AM
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Bad alignment + cheap starter =




Get a good starter, follow the shimming directions that should come with the starter, and fix that oil leak and you should be fine for quite a while.
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Old May 13, 2004 | 12:24 PM
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Thanks for replies, gave me a few ideas, and it looks like it may be a combination of factors, judging from what you guys say,
the main being that it wasn't shimmed, second: one of the bolts was an odd one, witch was about 1/3 inch too long, and the guy mounting it used a nut to space it out, and thirdly, when i studied the thing closer, there were markings from where the nut had pushed on the housing when the bolt had been tightened, same place where the crack runs. (see attached pic)

closeup of damage

Thanks for the clues.

-Camarogeddon

Last edited by Camarogeddon; May 13, 2004 at 12:26 PM.
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Old May 13, 2004 | 12:45 PM
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Engine: 283, 2.5,3.8 turbo 350
Transmission: powerglide,auto overdrive, th350,4L80
Originally posted by Camarogeddon
Thanks for replies, gave me a few ideas, and it looks like it may be a combination of factors, judging from what you guys say,
the main being that it wasn't shimmed, second: one of the bolts was an odd one, witch was about 1/3 inch too long, and the guy mounting it used a nut to space it out, and thirdly, when i studied the thing closer, there were markings from where the nut had pushed on the housing when the bolt had been tightened, same place where the crack runs. (see attached pic)

closeup of damage Thanks for the clues.

-Camarogeddon
id be willing to say that the spacing that a previous person did to it with a nut is the majority of your problem go to the parts store and buy the right bolts and as said before shim it and you should be fine ...
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