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Old Mar 29, 2001 | 09:31 AM
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Gas Mileage Whining

I keep hearing guys talk about their 20 MPG (and that neighborhood) in cars very similar to mine and I just don't get it. I get 10 MPG IF I'M LUCKY!!! Is there any way to squezze better mileage from a 350 with a Holley 750? My gears are 3.25's (or so I was told) and I have a 700R4 tranny. Am I just doomed to filling up every 3 days? (If answering, keep in mind that I don't want to sacrifice too much performance, it's pretty damn scary for a daily driver.)

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Old Mar 29, 2001 | 06:10 PM
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hmm... new air filter, new sparkplugs, new distrib. cap, new wires, new o2 sensor... Those could help.

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Old Mar 29, 2001 | 06:11 PM
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Doh.. That's a carb isn't it.. Do you even have an o2 sensor? hehe

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Old Mar 29, 2001 | 07:34 PM
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Yea its called EFI

Sorry for not having a worthwhile reply.

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Old Mar 29, 2001 | 07:53 PM
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Have you tuned the carb or is it "out of the box" ?

If out of the box, lean it up some. Out of the box my edelbrock carb ran WAYYY too rich.

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Old Mar 30, 2001 | 03:00 AM
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I get 24mpg on the highway with my 383.



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Old Mar 30, 2001 | 06:53 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Matt84TA:
Have you tuned the carb or is it "out of the box" ?

If out of the box, lean it up some. Out of the box my edelbrock carb ran WAYYY too rich.

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It's out of the box (about 2 months ago). I know it's running rich, but it idles at 600 in park and I don't know enough about carb tuning to do it myself w/o a little help. I'm afraid that if I cut off any more fuel, it won't run at all. Anyone have any tips on tuning a Holley 750?
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Old Mar 30, 2001 | 06:55 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Enkil:
hmm... new air filter, new sparkplugs, new distrib. cap, new wires, new o2 sensor... Those could help.

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Everything under the hood is new, including the engine. And no, I don't have an O2 sensor on my carb.
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Old Mar 30, 2001 | 07:08 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by The ODB:
I get 24mpg on the highway with my 383.
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YEAH!!!! SEE WHAT I MEAN?!?!?! How are you doing that?!?!?! And why are you rubbing my nose in it without giving my any constructive advice?!?!?!
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Old Mar 30, 2001 | 10:12 AM
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Go to the carb board and ask how to tune a Holley. I only have experience with the Carter style carbs. It will help your mileage immensely.
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Old Mar 30, 2001 | 06:13 PM
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YOU CAN GO 3 DAYS BETWEEN FILLUPS? consider yourself lucky. really, i get about 8mpg on average. its the cost of power... well maybee its the 750 dbl pumper. by the way, i run 110 octane fuel at $3.99 a gallon.
hows evansville? havent been there in a while. theres a really hot chick that works at Dennys by the airport, i see her every time i go there
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Old Mar 31, 2001 | 09:22 PM
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Car: 1987 Trans Am
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Axle/Gears: 10 Bolt SLP Torsen, 3.73 ratio
110 octane? What kind of compression ratio are you running? If it's not sky high, either you don't need 110 octane, or it's not 110 octane, and they are just playing on words since everyone assumes higer octane=higher power, when really all it means is flash temprature i.e. at what temp will it ignite. Due to the universal gas laws, a higher compression engines compression will heat the gas to a higher temp and could cause detonation/dieseling.
(Just to clarify)

As for MPG I get SH*T 3.73 gears (after destroying 2 sets of 4.10's) And the other mods, and I get 10-12. Driving from Denton Tx to Fort Wort costs me about 3/8 of a tank both ways (This is also at between 70-80 MPH running at 2500-3500 RPM the whole way)


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Old Apr 1, 2001 | 12:34 AM
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Car: 88 Firebird WS6
Engine: 350 TPI
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: 3.42
OK, so I get a chance of slamming someone for a change.....

Just kiddin'

A NOS powered car, even if running a lower compression, must use more octane to get out of the ballpark of 'ping'...which could completely obliterate the motor if enough juice is squeezed with cheap gas with a higher risk on cheap pistons, too tight ring seal, no extra oiling hole..........

Nitrous.... the whole different animal!

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Old Apr 1, 2001 | 01:25 AM
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85firechicken,

tell me some more about your engine setup like cam specs, exhaust, ignition etc.. maybe I can figure what is going wrong if it is not just your carb leaking or way out of tune. Most people just allow their carbs to get dirty over time which ends up clogging the airbleeds for the idle & transition slot, or even the main well. Clogged airbleeds will definately cause a severe rich condition.

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Old Apr 2, 2001 | 07:20 AM
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To all: Thanks for your replies, it turns out that a new neighbor of mine came over to check out my car after hearing me in the driveway attempting to tune it... Long story short, he's a holley-tuning machine and now my T/A runs like a raped ape. knowledgeable neighbors rule! Again, thanks for the help.

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