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Old Oct 8, 2004 | 01:04 PM
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Weird oil pressure question

I was driving my car last week and my oil pressure just dropped for no reason. I wasn't abusing it or even lugging it. I was actually driving normal. The engine only has 90,000 miles on it. I am pulling my engine soon to see what happened and I was wondering what I should pay close attention to. The car didn't overheat or start knocking. It lost power, but I think that was because the lifters weren't oiling properly. I am hoping this can be fixed for a reasonable amount of money. I appreciate any help or advice.
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Old Oct 8, 2004 | 01:30 PM
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Verify the pressure with a mechanical gauge first.

Our sending units are notorious for failing.
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Old Oct 8, 2004 | 01:36 PM
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Originally posted by Stekman
Verify the pressure with a mechanical gauge first.

Our sending units are notorious for failing.
Agreed. My factory guage always read really low. Hooked up a mechanical guage (in about 2 mins I might add) and it was actually much better than the factory guage showed.
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Old Oct 8, 2004 | 03:39 PM
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The sending unit or the gauge is most likely bad. But my car did that and I had no oil pressure for like 6 months and I thought it was the sending unit but really the pickup tube on the oil pump had fell off into the oil pan. Might wanna get that checked ASAP.
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Old Oct 8, 2004 | 08:34 PM
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The engine is losing oil pressure, at least in the top half. The sending unit is less than a year old. When the guage dropped, the lifters went to chattering. The pump was also put in less than a year ago. The pickup was tack welded and the driveshaft is an ARP. The car ran fine for about a year. The original engine suffered from a bad sending unit, so I have been through that already. This is a completely different engine, and a different sending unit and a different guage cluster and even the wiring to the c100 bulkhead connector are different. The sending unit is mounted behind the intake. I am wondering if something could keep the bottom half from oiling. I am going to hook a guage to the port above the oil filter and test there. what internal problem could cause this? The engine is full of oil( less than 2 weeks old ) and it smells fine. I am pulling the engine tomorrow and I was just wondering what I should pay special attention to.
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Old Oct 8, 2004 | 10:36 PM
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before you completely rip out the engine take off your valve covers and make sure that the main drain holes arent clogged for whatever reason. And run a quart of automatic transmission fluid in it and let it idle for a little bit with that in there, then drain the oil.... dont drive it like that.

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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 12:10 PM
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The drain holes aren't clogged, and there is no oil in the valve covers. I didn't get to pull the engine due to rain. I was wondering if a cam bearing could cause this. I read on the cz28.com forums that some people that installed hot cams in their engines had cam bearings fail. Would this cause this? I was going to pull my engine anyway because of painting. Now I actually have a reason. I appreciate all the comments and suggestions. I just don't understand how this could happen so suddenly.
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 12:14 PM
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If the drain holes arent clogged, and the little "squirt" holes in the lifters arent clogged then your pump aint workin. Time to get yourself a new pump I dont know what type of oil pump would be best for an LT1, not sure if the gen 1 engine oil pump design is the same as a gen 2 engine.
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 12:19 PM
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Yes they use the same pump. I have a melling M55HV in it now. I plan on replacing it when I pull the engine. I am going touse a M55 with a high pressure spring. What could cause it to fail like this?
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 04:47 PM
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i dont know man, my oil pump failed on me too, i took it all apart and i didnt notice anything that looked off from my melling M55 w/ M55-A (high volume) pickup and Mr. Gasket #26 (high) pressure spring...

The collar on the driveshaft didnt come out in pieces though, so that might have something to do with it, but i doubt it.

The most suggested oil pump combo is the one that I have, and I got it from the members of this board

Melling M55 Oil Pump
Melling M55-A Oil Pump Pickup (this is the high volume version)
Melling 55-SA Driveshaft (if i recall correctly atleast)
Mr. Gasket #26 Pressure Spring

Total for it was ~50 dollars when i bought it from Advanced Auto (they didnt have it on hand, had to wait like 4 days for them all to come in, but well worth it knowing i'll never have to bother with another oil pump again )

Got a exhaust shop to put one tac weld on there, done for free (thank *** hah).

I dont think your cam bearings could stop the flow to the upper end, but I guess it could also be possible... if all of your bearings in the cam where shot, and I mean ALL of them.
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 06:04 PM
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I will probably use that setup except with my ARP driveshaft. I thought I covered all the bases when I put my engine in. I guess I won't know anymore till I pull the engine. I will post my findings.
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 06:13 PM
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make sure your driveshaft has a metal collar, and not a plastic one, and a lightweight driveshaft helps too
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