383 with TPI??
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From: memphis
Car: 1986 Iroc z z28
Engine: 305 tpi
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383 with TPI??
I recently got a 350 4 bolt main for 50 bucks
I plannig on boring it .30 over and then stroking it to 383
maybe a super or turbocharger not sure yet but I was wondering if I should keep it TPI which is what I want to do
but can I get lots more power out of a carb???
I plannig on boring it .30 over and then stroking it to 383
maybe a super or turbocharger not sure yet but I was wondering if I should keep it TPI which is what I want to do
but can I get lots more power out of a carb???
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From: memphis
Car: 1986 Iroc z z28
Engine: 305 tpi
Transmission: 700r4
will I need to do any mods with the tpi in order for it to run effectivly???
do I need a bigger throttle body??
do I need a bigger throttle body??
Last edited by 19Irocz86; Nov 7, 2004 at 08:51 PM.
If you can run a carb without going afoul of inspection, do it. The TPI will hinder performance. Greatly. For the money you spend to make it "better" you could get a great carb intake combo. With your carb properly tuned and your timing right, you will have just as adequate driveability as with FI. Remember cars werent always fuel injected.
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Car: 1985 Camaro, 1986 Trans Am
Engine: 5.0L carbed and 5.0L TPI
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Originally posted by ljnowell
Remember cars werent always fuel injected.
Remember cars werent always fuel injected.
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And theres a reason they aren't carbed today.
And theres a reason they aren't carbed today.
Sorry, just playing devil's advocate.
If cost wasn't an option, I'd go with Holley's StealthRam, or a single plane efi conversion. If you are really in a pinch and want to stick EFI, go for the LT1 intake conversion & prom burn.
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I would keep the TPI for now if he already has it. I know, I know, I sell the LT1 intake conversion so why not steer him that way? Well, in his opening post he said he was going with a supercharger or turbo. That changes the rules of induction folks. What was once a hindering small runner TPI intake isn't anymore because of the laws of pressurization. It will run like a raped ape with boost applied. I don't know for sure if changing the intake after that will have a dramatic effect or not but it will run well with stock TPI and boost.
And theres a reason they aren't carbed today.
Well, in his opening post he said he was going with a supercharger or turbo. That changes the rules of induction folks. What was once a hindering small runner TPI intake isn't anymore because of the laws of pressurization.
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Originally posted by John Millican
I would keep the TPI for now if he already has it. I know, I know, I sell the LT1 intake conversion so why not steer him that way? Well, in his opening post he said he was going with a supercharger or turbo. That changes the rules of induction folks. What was once a hindering small runner TPI intake isn't anymore because of the laws of pressurization. It will run like a raped ape with boost applied. I don't know for sure if changing the intake after that will have a dramatic effect or not but it will run well with stock TPI and boost.
I would keep the TPI for now if he already has it. I know, I know, I sell the LT1 intake conversion so why not steer him that way? Well, in his opening post he said he was going with a supercharger or turbo. That changes the rules of induction folks. What was once a hindering small runner TPI intake isn't anymore because of the laws of pressurization. It will run like a raped ape with boost applied. I don't know for sure if changing the intake after that will have a dramatic effect or not but it will run well with stock TPI and boost.
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From: memphis
Car: 1986 Iroc z z28
Engine: 305 tpi
Transmission: 700r4
well guys I was looking around prices to build a 383 stroker and its a little more than I want to spend at the moment
So I think I am just going to build a strong,fast, **** eating 350 for the time being.
which starts my topic over "how about the tpi on a 350"???
sorry for the sudden mind change
thanks for all the help
So I think I am just going to build a strong,fast, **** eating 350 for the time being.
which starts my topic over "how about the tpi on a 350"???
sorry for the sudden mind change
thanks for all the help
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Car: '89 Trans AM/'88 GTA
Engine: (2) Tuned Port L98's
Originally posted by 19Irocz86
thanks for all the help guys I have decided to keep my tpi for the 383
thanks for all the help guys I have decided to keep my tpi for the 383
If your on street, torque is what ya want.
all this talk about TPI choking motors makes it sound like its
out of the stone age.
and a LT1 setup is quite similar to a TPI, without the long tube runners,
and the higher compression motors the LT1 came on.
if your gonna go with blower, ATI makes a hell of kit
for a L98 TPI with a excellent boost warranty.
OH! what is the 350 out of? 50 bucks!??
same applies if your gunna supercharge.. even tho a built 383 is
is chocolate icing with a cherry on top!!
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From: louisville, co
Car: 86 T/A
Engine: 383
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.27 9 bolt
Re: 383 with TPI??
I would have to suggest ditching the TPI if you dont have emissions. I went down this road and have been kicking myself ever sense. I built a fully forged 383 with AFR 195 eliminators, edelbrock base, slp runners, and a ported plenum and its still chokin the living $#!% out of it on the big end. Ran a best of a 14.4 at a track at 5,800ft. I am now in the process of switching over to an rpm air gap and a 750 double pumper.
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Car: '89 Trans AM/'88 GTA
Engine: (2) Tuned Port L98's
Re: 383 with TPI??
Wow, this thread is four years old! .. holy crap!
Ever hear the expression the difference between insanity and genious is
only measured by success? There is a quite few people who have built very nasty 383 Tuned Port engines. But, compare that to the number of people who have tried and failed... yea.
14.4? So you spent thousands of dollars only too shave 4 tenths off a
factory TPI car? I dont think I could blame TPI for that.. no offense.
Then again 5800feet does suck.
Ever hear the expression the difference between insanity and genious is
only measured by success? There is a quite few people who have built very nasty 383 Tuned Port engines. But, compare that to the number of people who have tried and failed... yea.
14.4? So you spent thousands of dollars only too shave 4 tenths off a
factory TPI car? I dont think I could blame TPI for that.. no offense.
Then again 5800feet does suck.
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Car: 1991 Formula Firebird
Engine: L98 with headers/exhaust
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.23 10-bolt
Re: 383 with TPI??
I ran the stock TPI on my mild-383 and it was probably costing me 40+rwhp. However, the giggle-inducing torque was quite fun...except for my tires.
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