Tech / General Engine Is your car making a strange sound or won't start? Thinking of adding power with a new combination? Need other technical information or engine specific advice? Don't see another board for your problem? Post it here!
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: CARiD

OEM hydralic lifters--can they be checked?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 20, 2004 | 06:07 PM
  #1  
Zap Racing's Avatar
Thread Starter
Moderator
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 4,079
Likes: 1
From: Houston Texas
Car: 1989 IROC Z-28
Engine: L98 350--modified
Transmission: 700 R4--modified
Axle/Gears: 4:10 Posi
OEM hydralic lifters--can they be checked?

Can the OEM roller hydralic lifters in my 89IROC--L98 350 be checked "on the bench" so to speak, to see if they are ok? Pumping up like they should-ETC?

The reason I ask is that after a trip to the local 1/8' strip, I damaged something in the valve train. There was no knocking, tapping, or smoke, but I had a pretty much dead cylinder. Based on past experiances and based on the sound of the exhaust, I felt it was something like a broken spring/rocker arm/bent or warped valve/bent pushrod, ETC. I did not spend a whole lot of time troubleshooting it, cause I knew the heads had to come off, and from the symptoms was pretty sure it was not in the bottom end.

The heads are off and going to the machine shop tomorrow and while they are in the shop, and I wanted to double check the lifters to make sure they are OK, as now would be the time to replace them, if one is bad. I have done a visual on all of them as far as the roller itself, and the wear patterns where they actually rub in the lifter hole itself. Everything looks ok, best I can tell, but if they can be bench tested, how is that done?

THANKS,
Craig
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2004 | 06:48 PM
  #2  
SSC's Avatar
SSC
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 3,974
Likes: 0
From: Pueblo Co
Car: 1989 C4
Engine: L98
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 307
Not really but if you can push it down it usually will pump up. Take the lifter apart and inspect the assembly for debre. Thats about the only thing that will prevent the lifter from pumping up. if theres crap in the lifter it went through the oil pump fist.
Reply
Old Dec 21, 2004 | 09:00 AM
  #3  
Zap Racing's Avatar
Thread Starter
Moderator
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 4,079
Likes: 1
From: Houston Texas
Car: 1989 IROC Z-28
Engine: L98 350--modified
Transmission: 700 R4--modified
Axle/Gears: 4:10 Posi
There's no way to check them?


Take the lifter apart?


Seems like I remember reading here on TGO board on new lifters to preload them submerse them in clean oil and press then down ONCE and hold momentarily to load them. Does that sound right?

Do I want to clean them in varsol or parts cleaner, or just leave them alone?


Also I noticed when removing them to inspect that the oil hole on the side of the lifter, on the majority of them, was facing to the rear of the car. A couple were facing to the front. Does that make any difference?

Last edited by Zap Racing; Dec 21, 2004 at 09:12 AM.
Reply
Old Dec 21, 2004 | 09:33 AM
  #4  
ede's Avatar
ede
TGO Supporter
 
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 14,811
Likes: 1
From: Jackson County
if you don't see any wear i'd just use them. if you see wear or suspect you have a problem i'd replace them and skip the "bench test"
Reply
Old Dec 21, 2004 | 10:02 AM
  #5  
Zap Racing's Avatar
Thread Starter
Moderator
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 4,079
Likes: 1
From: Houston Texas
Car: 1989 IROC Z-28
Engine: L98 350--modified
Transmission: 700 R4--modified
Axle/Gears: 4:10 Posi
If I do the preload thing in oil and they all pop back up with the same resistance, could i assume they are probably OK?

THANKS!
Reply
Old Dec 21, 2004 | 10:17 AM
  #6  
five7kid's Avatar
Moderator
25 Year Member
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 43,187
Likes: 42
From: Littleton, CO USA
Car: 82 Berlinetta/57 Bel Air
Engine: L92/LQ4 (both w/4" stroke)
Transmission: 4L80E/4L80E
Axle/Gears: 12B-3.73/9"-3.89
No. It's not the rebound that is most important.

They aren't that hard to take apart and clean. You can check for wear or damage while disassembled. Only do one at a time, as the same parts have to go back together. You don't need to take the roller itself apart, just inspect the roller surface for unusual wear or rough bearing operation. Put them back together with oil, soak them all in oil overnight before installation, you shouldn't have any problem.

(An old story to illustrate the principal: I put new lifters in the original 283 from the '57 when I did a rering/rebearing job. I always had a little clatter at start-up that wouldn't go away with repeated adjustment. Eventually the engine lost a piston and I picked up another engine that had a good valvetrain, so my brother used the cam/lifters in a 327 he was rebuilding. He first disassembled each lifter and cleaned/lubed as described above, and the lifters were completely quiet when he got the engine running, through the day he sold the car several years later.)
Reply
Old Dec 21, 2004 | 10:24 AM
  #7  
Zap Racing's Avatar
Thread Starter
Moderator
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 4,079
Likes: 1
From: Houston Texas
Car: 1989 IROC Z-28
Engine: L98 350--modified
Transmission: 700 R4--modified
Axle/Gears: 4:10 Posi
Cool-THANKS!!!
Reply
Old Dec 23, 2004 | 01:25 PM
  #8  
vernw's Avatar
Supreme Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 3,205
Likes: 0
From: Dallas, TX area
Car: 91 Formula WS6 (Black, T-Tops)
Engine: 383 MiniRam (529 HP, 519 TQ - DD2K)
Transmission: Built '97 T56, Pro 5.0, CF-DF
Axle/Gears: 4.11 posi Ford 9"
Look for any of them with the plunger not all the way up against the spring - that would be a bad one....
Reply
Old Dec 24, 2004 | 10:23 AM
  #9  
Zap Racing's Avatar
Thread Starter
Moderator
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 4,079
Likes: 1
From: Houston Texas
Car: 1989 IROC Z-28
Engine: L98 350--modified
Transmission: 700 R4--modified
Axle/Gears: 4:10 Posi
Originally posted by vernw
Look for any of them with the plunger not all the way up against the spring - that would be a bad one....

THANKS!!!
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
db057
TBI
14
Apr 28, 2019 07:45 AM
IROCZDAVE (88-L98)
Engine/Drivetrain/Suspension Parts for Sale
1
Nov 19, 2015 07:03 AM
383cam
Electronics
5
Sep 9, 2015 06:01 AM
Strick1
LTX and LSX
2
Sep 4, 2015 07:11 AM
tgp1990
V6
1
Sep 4, 2015 06:24 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:55 PM.