would it possible with a buget of 15k or so to build a third gen, maro or TA, will full interior, keep up on a track in all aspects, cornering, acceleration,brakeing. With a 06 z06? any lightening ok but full interior, like the zo6?

I was just wondering if our car is just two heavy. Also keeping all comforts, ac+ heat. it is just two heavy? I know it is possible with a striped car, but is this possible with a street car in trim.

and no i dont have the money to do this i was just wondering.

Also would not have a problm with a 6pt roll cage, i think all cars that go over 150 should have them.

 

Yes.

End of thread.

 

thanks for your in debth clarification, you answerd all of my questions hehehe... how much modification to the suspention would be needed? would bolt on suspention parts be enough or would you need to re work the entire drivetrain? i know hp would not be a prob, plenty of ppl have our cars puting out over 600 hp, witch would be abour right for a touring car. But what bout evreything else?

 

if u were building this id hope youd put a roll cage in it good safety and chassis strengnthening maneuver there. And you should plan on getting a band new full suspension, bolt on parts are fine just get nice stuff- like spohn(except when you say bolt on dont expect it to be cheap). and for drivetrain you need to fully build your 700r4 or get a turbo 350/400 and dont worry about breaking it. And your biggest problem would be weight distribution not neccesarily total weight. and ya air conditioning good bye.

 

I have everything in my Iroc as far as mods go with the exception of roll bars but I drive my car like she has a 4 banger I got used to driving my Duke

 

i was thiking good bolt on stuff, just wondering ig the stock geometrey would even work. I will never be able to do this because the total car would proble be 15-20k in parts. Just wondering if it was even possible. Would be a cool to have a third gen that would be able to keep uo with *some* supercars. and would still be Mutch cheaper. 5 k for car, 20 k for parts. or 100K for z06.

 

Yes if your car has full on race tires and suspension setup and the ZO6 is stock with stock tires.

But if on the same tires, NO POSSIBLE WAY!

 

*cough* $70k *cough* (not that it makes much difference in comparison)

Shawn

 

If a person sat down and made a complete plan of attack making sure money was spent wisely and in the right spots, and if the person has tools and mechanical ability, the answer is a definate yes!! Just like any car build, trying to spend money on big this or expensive that will not be smart money spent, but if you look at the car as a whole and take the entire platform into account, you can get alot of upgrades with a $15K budget-especially if you can keep all the work in house when modding.

There are many cars in all aspects of racing that have minimal investment and run circles around "yuppie" type cars...just gotta do your homework is all. Only bad thing with this is unless you keep the car forever, it would be a bad investment since typically cars are a bad investment and you'd be lucky to get minimal back out of what you have into it. I would love to sell my car and start over knowing what I know now or invest that money into a car that will appreciate or have a better return investment come selling time, but I'm too far in and will lose my **** no matter which avenue I take so I'm stuck with this junker

 

that is kind of what i was thinking. If you got a stock body, did sone ligenting, I was thinking aluminim block, 200lb, strib bumpers and tube, 50lb, mabie aluminim roof, lexan windows all around, and custom hood, stock look but fiberglass or carbon fiber,. Tube frame front, and tie together with a roll cage. tub both front and rear wheel wells, so you could stuff Really wide tires, front and back aluminum radiator and light 17-18 inch rims. all that - motor could be done for probley 2-3k, that would remove probley 400lbs even with the rool cage. Then install forged, aluminum, blown 383, with a 6 speed. like 10K if you do all work yourself. as well as build motor. another 3 k on big brakes. and the rest on suspention 5-6k. But you would probley need to go to a floating rear and dry sump for high speed cornering preformance. that would also blow the budget.

The bigest problem i see is geting the car balanced. and geting weight out of the front. and modind the suspention to get enough tire so you could grab the road.

 

From expereince, adding weight in the right spot is sometimes beneficial

 

i have no, ok VERRY little experiance so i have little idea bout that. But makes complete sene. want a aprentace. would be a bit of a comute though. wish i know someone locally that would take me under thier wing but i digress.

 

LOL, well I'm personally taking a financial break from racing for ayear or two, but am deciding by the end of the month which outfit to drive for so dont know if I'd be able to take you under my wing sinceI will have no financial control of the program and can only make suggestions on changes due to that fact So I'll just be the "dummie" behind the wheel

Always try to give advise when I race the street drag thing, but too many kids out there read magazines and know more than I ever will about going fast and how to win

It sounds corny and unrealistic, but if it's in your blood to learn all you can about any specific motorsport, literally go to the track/s and get to know guys in your area...but stay away from hacks that can't/don't do worth a crap, I've found over the years there is a reason why they are'nt at the top and are stuck near the bottom, some reasons more prevaliant than others. But do some serious watching/note taking and get in with the good crowd. Know before hand the higher classed (in a racing venue) are typically snooty and talk down to anybody that's not a "racer" and meets their criteria, so the big fast cars might not be the best place to stay since ego's are soaring. Pick a middle class car that performs well, get to know as many guys at the tracks as possible and you'll have a 7 day a week full schedule if you want to learn/have some golden beverages while helping out in any way you can...even if it's just cleaning up for them while they're wrenching. Really no different than wanting a job so bad you'll do what you have to do.

My half brother and I dont get along very well, but I had him working for my business during the day and he helped tinkering on the car at night when needed. It helped a ton having an extra set of hands at all time, and made my life easier to delegate the grunt work (oil changes and wiping down tools) and he loved it since he was learning a great deal in between the grunt work. He would come out and be my pit beeotch during races I'd attend and he had time, taught him how everything worked, what to look for, what to do, etc...wish I could end with him winning the first race he entered, but at least he went out with a clue and learned a great deal from the mistakes he made since he could remember back and put it all together after it was said and done.

Unless you gifted at birth, the majority has to work for what they get/got and mistakes are just part of the process of learning what it takes to be the best.

Other advise, surround yourself with people better than you, since you'll only be as good as your competition and hanging around people in the know willrub off on you also since they've been there done that and I promise your learning curve will be gretly accelerated. I spent 2 yrs pit beeotchinig for 2 brother that have raced through HS and still race today, I learned alot over those 2 yrs and once I got comfortable and familiar with the actual seat time/driving, consistant win lights became the norm that first year and since then

 

That sounds like what my mother would say.

 

gotta say that Josh, IHI is right. I learned more from being around people who are in the "know" compared to any magazine or TV show on sunday morning that talks about cars. Remember it's never stupid to ask questions and in fact I still call people up or invite them over with the simple act of a few cold beverages to get some help on whatever problems i'm running into. Heck I still hit up IHI from time to time to ask his opinion as well and I've only met him once. But those are the type of people to try and ask questions to. Don't get cocky when talking to them acting like you know everything and typically people will help you out when you admit you don't know everything.

 

Stay in school, dont take drugs, drink milk....I pitty da foo!!

 

thanks for the advice. it is so simple it just might work. I really dont care what i do i would really be happy just watching and learning and cleaning tools, and the shop. I spent the first 16 years of my life doing that for my grandfather in his cabnet shop and learned so much. I now am shop forman of a shop and only 26 because of his teaching. I just want to do the the same thing with cars but when i seem to fnd someone that knows what they are doing. I find in a fiew weeks that they are just good at talking, and reading mags. I will go down to the track and start watching ppl. I get along with most ppl. and the golden drink never seems to hurt. Thanks so much for the advice. I was just thinking bout the z06 but seem to have goten more out of this conversation than i expected.

 

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