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Old May 1, 2006 | 03:22 PM
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Starter wire help

ok, so im putting my starter back on (from like a year ago) i got a few different wires that could go to it.

on the bigger thread i have
-two red wires merged into one loop connector
-a skinny black one on a loop connector
-and a big black one with a slightly different loop connector like it has a tab


so im asking if i have the wrong things on (and where they should be if they shouldnt), which should be on there, or if im just way off in left feild touching myself while the other team keeps poppin flyballs in my zone.


any help is appreciated.
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Old May 2, 2006 | 08:02 PM
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anyone?
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Old May 2, 2006 | 08:11 PM
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Big red ones the main feed and the small black one would be the 12v switched source from the ignition to activate the solenoid.

Not sure why/how you have a big black wire there though...

Where does it come from? Maybe its the main ground from the battery that got disconnected?
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Old May 3, 2006 | 07:56 AM
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main ground from the battery, as in the black battery connection? its definetly not that.
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Old May 3, 2006 | 08:26 AM
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big black/red stripe (I think) wire goes to the main terminal on the starter solenoid. There are also multiple red (or sort of orange) wires with fusable links that connect with the main wire as well on that terminal. The small black wire with a purple stripe goes to the small terminal on the solenoid nearest to the engine block. This provides +12V to the solenoid coil to engage the starter.
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Old May 3, 2006 | 08:42 AM
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reds go to battery cable source

the big ring ended ones,

in which all the larger guage red ones will be
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Old May 3, 2006 | 08:48 AM
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OK, it's ROCKET SCIENCE time!!!! Ready?

The ones with BIG rings go on the BIG terminal; and the one with a SMALL ring goes on the SMALL terminal!

Tough, eh?

If your starter has 2 small terminals, use the one labelled "S"; not the one labelled "R". The "R" terminal is for points-type ignition systems, it bypasses the ballast resisitor when in Start.

None of them go to "ground", and none go to the terminal where the motor lead that comes up out of the motor body, attaches to the solenoid.
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Old Jun 5, 2006 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by sofakingdom
OK, it's ROCKET SCIENCE time!!!! Ready?

The ones with BIG rings go on the BIG terminal; and the one with a SMALL ring goes on the SMALL terminal!
no ****. thats not what i was asking maybe i said it funny idk.

i have 4 wires the little black one goes to the small stud.(these three COULD go to the big stud) a red one thats two wires connected together, a black one thats skinny and a huge thick black one (that im holding on to)

heres a picture

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Old Jun 5, 2006 | 02:32 PM
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Huge thick black = positive battery cable (follow it up there and make sure)
Small ones with big terminals = battery feeds to various parts of the car
Wire with small terminal = "S" terminal wire (small terminal)

Put the ones with the BIG terminals on the BIG terminal, and the one with the SMALL terminals on the SMALL terminal.

See, I told you it was rocket science! Believe me now?
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Old Jun 5, 2006 | 02:35 PM
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so all three of those go on the larger stud?
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Old Jun 5, 2006 | 02:51 PM
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That would be the point.

I'm telling you, it's really not that tough. It's just a car. It's real real simple. You got a big ring, it goes on a big stud; you got a little ring, it goes on a little stud.

Yes it's really that easy. It's so easy, that even though I'm sofakingdom I can hardly remember my own name sometimes, even I can usually figure it out.
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Old Jun 5, 2006 | 04:54 PM
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Geeze man no need to be a jerk to him, whats wrong with a polite answer that gets the same point across, doesn't **** anyone off, and gets him the knowledge he needs?
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Old Jun 5, 2006 | 10:36 PM
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I just want you to know that you should believe what you see, that the evidence in your hands isn't that hard to figure out. Don't outsmart yourself, just do the obvious. It's really easy to figure out. You've got all the clues you need, sitting right in front of you. Don't be afraid. YOU can do it. It's within YOUR power to work the puzzle. Is that so bad?

Is the car running yet?
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 08:42 AM
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you were telling me what size loop connecters go on which(which in and of itself is an insult), maybe i didnt make myself clear i was asking if all of the 3 went on there because i thought only two were supposed to,

and you come...THE BIG ONES GO ON THE BIG STUD DURRRRRRR! well obviously, ****.

maybe you should spend less time away from your computer and learn some respect for others.

anyways my question was answered (off of this site), because im not trusting someone who talks to me with such disrespect. so could a moderator please lock this, thanks.

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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 11:11 AM
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OK, I don't have to help you out, you know. No skin off my nose. I'll remember that in the future, I'll keep my knowledge to myself where you're involved, if knowledge bothers you so much. Have a nice day!!!
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 12:14 PM
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Now boys, there's no need for bickering here.

In the good ol' days, there were two small solenoid terminals - get the two small lugs mixed up and on the wrong terminal, nothing would happen when you went to the "start" position. Of course, in those days, there were only two large lug wires, unlike the growing crowd on there these days. And, if you get a replacement solenoid or starter/solenoid, sometimes it includes the now-unused small terminal.

Personally, being in the rocket business, I often find my work less confusing than automotive wiring. Mostly because rockets have good schematics, while auto shop manuals often fall short in that area.
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 04:22 PM
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 04:43 PM
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borsty, this forum is for helping people, this thread can help more then just you in the future. If you got it working correctly, post what you did do, so that in the future it can help others who are searching the archives. There's nothing I hate more then finding the thread that's EXACTLY what I need to know, but the guy never mentioned how he fixed the problem, so it's no help to me. drives me nuts.

So, did the big lug take all 3, or just two of them?
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 06:56 PM
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they all fit on, ive already had them on, but it just didnt feel too right, thats why i asked my question.


but i do have yet to start it. this week hopefully


here my engine if anyone wants a picture


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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 03:05 PM
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Any luck with starting it yet?
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