PLEASE HELP.....
PLEASE HELP.....
hi, i have some problems that have been driving me nuts for 2 days now. well i have a 83 camaro with a 1976 chevelle 350 in it. i put new lifters in it over the weekend, all went well, tightened all the rockers as told tighten to no lash then turn over 360 degrees then tightened the loose ones. i put the distributor on and im pretty sure the #1 cylinder was at tdc on the compression stroke and rotor on #1 spark plug wire. well it wants to start it kind of puts but wont stay running. if i crank long enough gas starts to shoot out of the carb. i dont know, im stuck
i think i've checked everything 10 times. it ran fine before except for the lifter click. i didnt touch the timing chain just the intake manifold and that stuff. please any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
thanks,nick
i think i've checked everything 10 times. it ran fine before except for the lifter click. i didnt touch the timing chain just the intake manifold and that stuff. please any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.thanks,nick
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The rockers have to be lashed in a specific order, do a search for proper procedure on that.
Im guessing that its a mixture of having rockers too tight and incorrect timing.
Im guessing that its a mixture of having rockers too tight and incorrect timing.
as stated, find the procedure. Get to TDC. set them all. I would do 3/4 of a turn instead of a full 360. Thats what i have been told. I just went through the EXACT same problem
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awesome. Keep us updated on how its running and if you have any other problems!
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hey, well i have another problem. i,ve adjusted them while the engine is running, well i get them adjusted it sounds like it is running well at idle. put everything back on(rocker covers). start it up again and idles fine like before. step on the gas alittle and let off an it dies. it bogs does when you step on the gas i dont get it, are the valves not adjusted right when not at idle or somthing. please help
thanks,nick
thanks,nick
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alright. So you fired it up, backed off till it chattered then tightened till it stopped and went 1/2 turn past?
What carb is on there?
What carb is on there?
yep that is exactly what i did. some of them were already clicking so it was kinda hard to hear the one i was doing i think that might be the main proble. well th carb is a edlebrock 600cfm i dont know the number off hand but i didnt touch it other than the accelerter lines ad gas lines.
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-nick
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could it be that when im adjusting them cold the lifters havnt filled up with oil yet?
when they fill up it opens the valve to much then?
If you adjusted them, they're fine.
I don't know what you mean when you say the timing is "fine". Where is it set to? Are you sure the mark is accurate? It's worth a check: take out the #1 spark plug, unplug the big pink wire to the dist, turn the engine by bumping it with the starter until the piston reaches TDC or as close as you can tell it. Or, if the valve cover is easy to take off, watch either the #1 or #6 rockers (the timing mark will line up with both) , and observe that as you turn the motor slowly, the exhaust closes and the intake is starting to open; and set the motor to the point where they're equally just barely open. Then look at the timing mark. Check to see that it is somewhere pretty close to the "0" mark on the tab.
What distributor are you using? Does it have a vacuum advance can on it?
It's possible, just by a mismatch of the crank damper to the tab and by using a computer-controlled dist with no computer, that your timing is as much as 75° retarded from what it actually needs to be, under some circumstances. Just the damper/tab mismatch alone can cause you to set it about 35° too far retarded; and the lack of centrifugal and vacuum advance WILL BE responsible for about 40-45° of error in the retard direction.
Needless to say, this would make a car run like hammered dog plop.
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yeah, i definitely meant for you to tell us where it was set at when you got back with us.
well im still new to this and i think that is the main problem. i had the vaccume advance still connected so like you said it was way off , right now when i did it the right way it is at 8 degrees btdc, is that ok? at idle. it runs good now i mean real good. but it still has the click noise. i put brand new lifters in. the rockers are adjusted the right way they are not chattering at all. i adjusted them while running. turning them back till they chatter tightening till they stop then 1/2 turn after that. i dont get it. i have oil pressure there was oil straying everyware when i was adjusting. i put more oil since it got alittle low. when i rev it up it gets louder. what else could it be? could it be the header gasket? its a fast click. could it be a bearing of some sort? im stumped.
thanks so much for the help
-nick
thanks so much for the help
-nick
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