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Old Nov 18, 2007 | 01:12 PM
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Harmonic Tool stuck in crank.

I tried using a bolt with a lot of red thread locker to get it out and that didn’t work. The thing that is stuck in the crank is the adapter for the tool's bolt to install the Harmonic Balancer. Of course the adapter has nothing I can get a hold of... So I need some thinking help, Please help me I want to get this thing out of it with out going to a machine shop.

Edit: Would it hurt anything just to leave the adapter in their and put a bolt that fits in the adapter and use that bolt as the center bolt for the crank pulley?

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Old Nov 18, 2007 | 03:09 PM
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Re: Harmonic Tool stuck in crank.

picture??? i have no idea what you are tryin to say
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Old Nov 18, 2007 | 03:16 PM
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Re: Harmonic Tool stuck in crank.

The threads are probably screwed in the end of the crank now. I never use the tapered adapter in the hole when pulling a balancer. You should have taken the balancer bolt and washer off, removed the washer then reinstalled the bolt. Use the flat adapter from the puller and push against the head of the bolt.

Same goes for installing the balancer. You never use a bolt to pull the balancer on. You'll pull the threads out of the crank. A threaded rod is screwed into the crank then a nut and a couple of washers are used to force the balancer onto the crank. That way the rod never turns in the threads of the crank.

I have no idea how you'll get the adapter out of the crank without damaging the crank.

edit: I know what you're talking about now. You tried one of those universal adapter installers with different adapters for different cranks. You'll probably screw it up but try using an easy-out or screw extractor.
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Old Nov 18, 2007 | 03:24 PM
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Re: Harmonic Tool stuck in crank.

First picture shows the adapter in the crank. The seconded picture shows the other adapters in the box, one is missing because it’s stuck in the crank.
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Old Nov 18, 2007 | 03:32 PM
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Re: Harmonic Tool stuck in crank.

If I use an easy-out is it possable to screw up the adapter with out getting it out? If that could happen knowing my luck it would. Could I leave the adapter in the crank and use a differnt bolt for the center bolt?

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Old Nov 18, 2007 | 03:52 PM
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Re: Harmonic Tool stuck in crank.

Thread a nut onto the bolt then thread the bolt into the adapter. Tighten the nut to the adapter and see if the bolt will take it out then.

You could always put a bolt into the adapter as I previously mentioned and pull the balancer back off. Then use some vise grips on the adapter.
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Old Nov 18, 2007 | 04:56 PM
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Re: Harmonic Tool stuck in crank.

I don’t have the tool to pull it back off and the out side part of the adapter is really smooth and I doubt I can get a vice grip to hold on to it that tight.

However the bolt with a nut idea is a really good idea I have used that before on something else and it worked I should have thought of that before bugging you guys. But it doesn’t seem to be working this time, no matter how hard I tighten it. So I put some more thread locker on it got it real tight with one guy holding the ratchet and me tightening the nut with a wrench. Hopefully it will come off tomorrow when I try again. But at least now I have a bolt I can turn over the engine with while I finish it up.
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Old Nov 18, 2007 | 06:48 PM
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Re: Harmonic Tool stuck in crank.

1fastam suggested I used a welder, and weld the nut to the adapter. I don’t have a welder but it gave me another idea, to use JB weld I don’t know how strong this stuff gets especially sense it is not how its supposed to be used. anyways I’m posting this up to see if this would be a good idea or a bad idea.
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Old Nov 18, 2007 | 08:38 PM
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Re: Harmonic Tool stuck in crank.

Originally Posted by Cambridge205
1fastam suggested I used a welder, and weld the nut to the adapter. I don’t have a welder but it gave me another idea, to use JB weld I don’t know how strong this stuff gets especially sense it is not how its supposed to be used. anyways I’m posting this up to see if this would be a good idea or a bad idea.
JB weld Some people should just stay away from cars!!!
Go buy a harmonic balancer remover tool. Take the balancer off.
Use a big pipe wrench to remove the adapter.
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Old Nov 18, 2007 | 08:49 PM
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Re: Harmonic Tool stuck in crank.

The pipe wrench is a great idea. do what he said.
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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 06:40 PM
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Re: Harmonic Tool stuck in crank.

Easy-out worked. i'm debating on returning it or not... that adapter is ruined.

I'm a fan of easy-outs now.
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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 07:08 PM
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Re: Harmonic Tool stuck in crank.

cheaper than buying a new crank
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Old Mar 16, 2013 | 10:13 PM
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Re: Harmonic Tool stuck in crank.

Same thing just happened to me today. I'm getting an easy-out tomorrow.
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Old Dec 8, 2016 | 03:36 PM
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Re: Harmonic Tool stuck in crank.

Originally Posted by Cambridge205
Easy-out worked. i'm debating on returning it or not... that adapter is ruined.

I'm a fan of easy-outs now.
Did it mess up the crank at all? Everything seem ok when you got it all back together?
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Re: Harmonic Tool stuck in crank.

Originally Posted by Dakota W.
Same thing just happened to me today. I'm getting an easy-out tomorrow.
Be sure and buy a set of "Left Hand Drill Bits". You will thank me the first time you use them removing a bolt.
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Re: Harmonic Tool stuck in crank.

Old thread...

I've had this happen before too; a long long time ago in a galaxy far far away. A horrible learning experience back on one of my first cars, during the Civil War or thereabouts. That adapter thing is just the right size to go partway down into the sort of funnel-shaped end that most SBC cranks have. Then either it jams itself in there whole, or the press screw breaks through the end of it and the remains get stuck.

I just put a bolt in the crank... doesn't have to actually screw in, a flex plate bolt is about perfect, just kinda slides in and the head gives something flat and solid for the screw to press on without adding very much length to the crank.
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Old Apr 17, 2021 | 01:24 PM
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Re: Harmonic Tool stuck in crank.

Originally Posted by Cambridge205
I tried using a bolt with a lot of red thread locker to get it out and that didn’t work. The thing that is stuck in the crank is the adapter for the tool's bolt to install the Harmonic Balancer. Of course the adapter has nothing I can get a hold of... So I need some thinking help, Please help me I want to get this thing out of it with out going to a machine shop.Edit: Would it hurt anything just to leave the adapter in their and put a bolt that fits in the adapter and use that bolt as the center bolt for the crank pulley?
. Here’s the way to get it out get a fine thread nut and put it on the long bolt that goes into the stuck piece screw it up about a inch in the bolt then screw the bolt into the stuck piece tighten the nut to the stuck piece holding the bolt with another wrench so it’s tight then unscrew the long bolt on the end and then it comes out of the crank I just had the same problem that’s the tricks of the trade
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