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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 10:11 AM
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Has anyone dropped in a motor with headers attached?

I would like to put the headers on while on the stand and drop in in if its possible.

I know you need to jack up the motor when its in the car to install them....

I have the Headman 1 5/8" shorties (part no. 68470) with no coolant lines at all or any heater or A/C box.
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 10:20 AM
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Re: Has anyone dropped in a motor with headers attached?

Shorties should go in. Long tubes won't.
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 10:22 AM
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Re: Has anyone dropped in a motor with headers attached?

I figured the LT's wouldn't and the shorties would be close. Does the fact the motor needing to be jacked up (if still in the car) play into anything?
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 10:45 AM
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Re: Has anyone dropped in a motor with headers attached?

If the left side header slants forward it will not go in with the motor.
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 11:05 AM
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See picture in my vBGarage. That's the way it looked just before it went in.
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 01:51 PM
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Re: Has anyone dropped in a motor with headers attached?

N/M


I see the pass header on but cannot see the drivers side. Was that one connected as well?

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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 02:09 PM
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Yes, both sides were attached. I even had the spark plugs installed so I wouldn't have to hassle with that after the engine was in.
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 04:17 PM
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Re: Has anyone dropped in a motor with headers attached?

I did it with those exact headers a few months ago. I did it alone, with a trans attatched. Aside from the fuel line just behind the pass side strut tower that I crushed, it wasn't too bad. Would go alot better with help though.
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 04:58 PM
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Re: Has anyone dropped in a motor with headers attached?

i was wondering this as i will be swapping in a new motor soon i was thinking loosely bolt the headers on so they can shimmy around to fit in and then torquing em down when the motors in
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 09:53 PM
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Re: Has anyone dropped in a motor with headers attached?

Nice. Thanks guys. I'll be sure to post with my success in a week or so!
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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 09:49 AM
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Re: Has anyone dropped in a motor with headers attached?

I just put my 350 in with flowtech shortys and it slid in with ease did it my self too.
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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 09:55 AM
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Re: Has anyone dropped in a motor with headers attached?

I'll give it a shot, what can it hurt, right?

The only thing that got me was, at least with my Headman's, I had to jack up the motor on the drivers side when the motor was still in the car.
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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 10:25 AM
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Re: Has anyone dropped in a motor with headers attached?

I did it with those headers.
Need to remove the steering rod, and be very careful of the power brake MC. Otherwise you're laughing.
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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 10:57 AM
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Re: Has anyone dropped in a motor with headers attached?

That'd be my luck man.
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 09:06 PM
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Re: Has anyone dropped in a motor with headers attached?

Originally Posted by Sonix
I did it with those headers.
Need to remove the steering rod, and be very careful of the power brake MC. Otherwise you're laughing.
Really? I didn't have to remove anything (except that fuel line that I SHOULD have moved outta the way lol) to get it to drop in with headers bolted up tight to the engine. And that was by myself in the garage with the trans attached too.

But yes, be very careful around the brake MC, it gets very close to that 600lb anvil you are swinging around, and it would only take a small hit to f*ck it all up.
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