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Eagle ESP cranks, better than stock?

Old Jan 8, 2010 | 12:02 AM
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Eagle ESP cranks, better than stock?

I was looking at getting one of these cranks for a decent price and upgrading my rods too. I am shooting for 570-580hp at the crank, shifting at 7k. Pistons are KB 147's. I was wondering if it be worth upgrading the crank. I have heard different stories about how much stock parts can take.
The ESP cranks are cast steel. What are "stock" crankshafts made out of?

Thanks for any input.

Jason
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 12:06 AM
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Re: Eagle ESP cranks, better than stock?

Originally Posted by LilJayV10
I am shooting for 570-580hp at the crank, shifting at 7k. What are "stock" crankshafts made out of?
Cast iron in most, nodular iron in some.
Forged steel in Hi-Po apps (ZZ4)
If you are looking at those #'s ;better invest in a forged crank.
Cast steel cranks are rated 450-500Hp at lower revs depending on who you believe
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http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles..._to/index.html

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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 01:50 AM
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Re: Eagle ESP cranks, better than stock?

your stock crank will out perform your tires, axles, wheel studs, u-joints, and driving ability. i'm pushing 600hp through mine and broke lots of "other" parts. sometimes lighter parts can be better even though it's not stronger... something to think about...
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 02:27 AM
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Re: Eagle ESP cranks, better than stock?

Originally Posted by skirkland1980
your stock crank will out perform your ......... and driving ability..

Stock cast or stock forged?
Big difference
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 04:31 AM
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Re: Eagle ESP cranks, better than stock?

A stock cast crank goes a surprisingly long way as long as you don't rev the snot out of it.
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 01:34 AM
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Re: Eagle ESP cranks, better than stock?

I "think" i will be ok with the stock crank and KB pistons, I think they are suppose to be lighter. The rods are the only thing I am worried about. But people go stupid fast on stock parts.

I ended up going with a bigger cam than I originally planned. I will be shifting at 7k. Yikes!
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