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Old Feb 23, 2012 | 05:36 PM
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[Noob Here]Oil Spraying from intake manifold holes.

Ok, So I really don't know crap about cars yet and I'm learning basics.

[EDITED]So I'm trying to figure out why the oil is leaking(alot) when I rev the car and it gets high rpms it will start leaking oil fast from these holes.




Could it be a bad seal or whatever?

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Old Feb 23, 2012 | 08:28 PM
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Re: [Noob Here] Oil Leak

It's not leaking oil from the base of the carb since there's no oil up there. You have a leaky intake gasket. Gotta take off the carb, distributor, etc., remove the whole intake manifold and replace the gaskets that seal it to the heads andf reassemble.

BUT BEFORE YOU DO... I notice at least one big no-no. See that BIG hose going from the front/center of the carb over to the breather? That's wrong. That should be going to a PCV valve, not a breather. The breather should be in the other valve cover and with no hose going to it (vented to atomsphere).

That engine has "rig job" written all over it. The throttle linkage and transmission cable are totally wacky and the throttle return springs are rigged up by trained monkeys.

Look, what I'm saying is that you do NOT want to try to learn on this setup by yourself if it's your first time through. You need somebody who can identify the obvious problems and knows how to fix them, not just substitute one rig job with another. There is a RIGHT way to do things and you need somebody to show it to you. Because even after you fix the obvious rig-job problems there will be REAL problems to deal with- like the oil-leakigng intake manifold. And the fact that the engine's idle tune is likely to change dramatically the instant you fix that PCV/breather issue. And if I can see those issues from a single photo just happening to catch them while trying to address your initial question I will guarantee there is more stuff wrong than that.

I'm not saying you have bad or wrong parts. Not at all. An eddy carb on a Performer intake is a classic and appropriate combo for a mild performance engine. I'm saying that the person who put them together didn't know what they were doing. And if you have little experience yourself the chances of you figuring it out and putting them back together the right way (plus dialing in the tune once you do) is pretty slim.

FIND EXPRIENCED HELP. An old codger like me who knows pre-computer carb setups. The new school EFI "click a keyboard" guys won't be able to help. Just basic "what goes where" and "how to tune it" experience is what you need. Somebody who knows how to seat an intake, how to stab a distributor, how to hook up vacuum and cable linkages on a carb and how to time the ignition.

If you live anywhere near the Philly/Wilmington area I will help you. If not, find somebody like me to give you a hand. You are headed for frustration without experienced help.
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Old Feb 23, 2012 | 11:44 PM
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Re: [Noob Here] Oil Leak

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It's not leaking oil from the base of the carb since there's no oil up there. You have a leaky intake gasket. Gotta take off the carb, distributor, etc., remove the whole intake manifold and replace the gaskets that seal it to the heads andf reassemble.

BUT BEFORE YOU DO... I notice at least one big no-no. See that BIG hose going from the front/center of the carb over to the breather? That's wrong. That should be going to a PCV valve, not a breather. The breather should be in the other valve cover and with no hose going to it (vented to atomsphere).

That engine has "rig job" written all over it. The throttle linkage and transmission cable are totally wacky and the throttle return springs are rigged up by trained monkeys.

Look, what I'm saying is that you do NOT want to try to learn on this setup by yourself if it's your first time through. You need somebody who can identify the obvious problems and knows how to fix them, not just substitute one rig job with another. There is a RIGHT way to do things and you need somebody to show it to you. Because even after you fix the obvious rig-job problems there will be REAL problems to deal with- like the oil-leakigng intake manifold. And the fact that the engine's idle tune is likely to change dramatically the instant you fix that PCV/breather issue. And if I can see those issues from a single photo just happening to catch them while trying to address your initial question I will guarantee there is more stuff wrong than that.

I'm not saying you have bad or wrong parts. Not at all. An eddy carb on a Performer intake is a classic and appropriate combo for a mild performance engine. I'm saying that the person who put them together didn't know what they were doing. And if you have little experience yourself the chances of you figuring it out and putting them back together the right way (plus dialing in the tune once you do) is pretty slim.

FIND EXPRIENCED HELP. An old codger like me who knows pre-computer carb setups. The new school EFI "click a keyboard" guys won't be able to help. Just basic "what goes where" and "how to tune it" experience is what you need. Somebody who knows how to seat an intake, how to stab a distributor, how to hook up vacuum and cable linkages on a carb and how to time the ignition.

If you live anywhere near the Philly/Wilmington area I will help you. If not, find somebody like me to give you a hand. You are headed for frustration without experienced help.

First off, Thanks for taking the time for a informative/intelligent post. Yeah even with out knowing much about cars I could tell this thing was rigged to hell, I'm scared to show the rest probably break a few peoples hearts on here with the amount of rigging that I assume is there. I unfortunately live in Indianapolis, Indiana though I'm sure there's a fair amount of car people here.
I personally don't know anyone mostly woman in my family and not car savvy in the least. I don't wanna go to a garage I'd just get ripped off.
You know of any good documentation or stuff about camaros, Best place I've found is this site.

Thanks again.
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Old Feb 24, 2012 | 12:39 AM
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Re: [Noob Here] Oil Leak

I would buy a repair manual and read up. I've learned my fair share of working on cars just from reading manuals over and over, then going out and doing it. Best way to learn. I've been pretty self taught as far as working on cars. I'm no grade A mechanic, but I can do my own labor and save tons of $$ in the process. Theres a member on here, I cant think of his name off the top of my head but he sells shop manuals on disk for about $15 shipped. From my understanding there the best to get since they are full of information. Literally 1000's of pages. When I get the chance I'll get you his info unless someone beats me to it.
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Old Feb 24, 2012 | 01:38 AM
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Re: [Noob Here] Oil Leak

Originally Posted by shortyskater
I would buy a repair manual and read up. I've learned my fair share of working on cars just from reading manuals over and over, then going out and doing it. Best way to learn. I've been pretty self taught as far as working on cars. I'm no grade A mechanic, but I can do my own labor and save tons of $$ in the process. Theres a member on here, I cant think of his name off the top of my head but he sells shop manuals on disk for about $15 shipped. From my understanding there the best to get since they are full of information. Literally 1000's of pages. When I get the chance I'll get you his info unless someone beats me to it.
Yea that would help alot. I had a haynes for my other camaro and it disappeared and was like pretty old and cruddy.
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Old Feb 24, 2012 | 05:11 PM
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Re: [Noob Here] Oil Leak

Chevy86Iroc-Z is the member.
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/member.php?u=97075
Link to him.
Best of luck!
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Old Feb 26, 2012 | 09:47 PM
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Re: [Noob Here] Oil Leak

Thanks man
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Old Feb 28, 2012 | 07:28 PM
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Re: [Noob Here] Oil Leak

Does anyone think it could be anything else?
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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 08:48 AM
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Re: [Noob Here] Oil Leak

There is another breather in the other valve cover with nothing going to it.
Also any idea about the aerosol sounding noise I don't ever remember hearing that.... or would that just be the sound of air leaking from where the oil is coming outta?

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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 09:01 AM
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Re: [Noob Here] Oil Leak

check your disty gasket (cant see pics posted,, but if its on top and out back, thats an obvious one)
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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 09:39 AM
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Re: [Noob Here] Oil Leak

Edited:

Ok I looked again and its its spraying up outta these holes....




I've also realized it has a tap/knock noise :X

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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 05:40 PM
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Re: [Noob Here]Oil Spraying from intake manifold holes.

Looks to me like intake bolts are missing. Direct shot to the valley.
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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 06:53 PM
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Re: [Noob Here]Oil Spraying from intake manifold holes.

I agree, unless it's a Vortec intake, there should be bolts there. Are the valve cover bolts around the perimeter, or in the middle of the valve cover? (not all center bolt valve cover heads are Vortecs)
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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 08:10 PM
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Re: [Noob Here]Oil Spraying from intake manifold holes.

Valve Cover Bolts are in the middle of the valve cover.
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