Ok so Today i was gonna go fill my car at gasstation. when i pulled out of my driveway, i went into 1st gear and it kicked when i pressed the gas. then i let go of the gas to shift and it kicked again. then when i pressed the gas in 2nd it seemed like the force wasnt as strong (no not the force from starwars ) until i got into third then it sped up. what might you think the problem is?? the weather is pretty cold outside too. so idk if this counts for anything??

 

Ok so i did that test that tells you if your clutch is bad. i went to 1st,2nd,3rd gear then jumpd to 5th and it didnt kick or anything, just didnt accelerate good. is this a sign of bad clutch?? help someone please

 

bump, anyone?? or can it be transmision??

 

Stick the trans in 3rd or 4th gear with the engine at ~1500 RPM and give it some gas. The car should accelerate. If the RPMs start to rise quickly and flare, but the car doesnt accelerate, then the clutch is slipping.

 

ok so do i do that while the car is sitting or do i drive it to 2nd gear and jump to 4 or 5th?? or do i just put in neutral and put in 5th gear while i let go of clutch and push gas at 1500 rpms?

 

OK so these are my results:

Ok so i first went from being at neutral to 5th while rpms where at 1500. all it did what turn off fast.

now i went to 1st and went to 1500 rpms running and jumped to 5th gear and it kept going but the rpms did not go up when i pushed the gas. i didnt floor it i just toe'd it.

what do these results mean?


shud i do another run?

 

Dude just cruise in gear and mash the gas. If the revs go up but the car doesnt accelerate then it's slipping. I dont know what this jumping gear nonsense is about, never heard of it.

 

I think you took me a little too literally The car obviously needs to be in motion. Basically cruising down the road at a steady speed in 3rd or 4th, with the engine at 1500 RPMs or so. Then mash the gas down and see what it does. Hopefully that clarifies things

In the higher gears, the slipping clutch will be a lot more obvious as the RPMs will flare up without much acceleration. The lower gears dont load the clutch as much as the higher gears do.

 

lol ohh ok ok. im sorry.

 

Youll might smell the clutch also if its slipping bad.

 

k so i did the thing and when i got into forth gear i slammed the throttle and it rose pretty quick, 1st and 2nd are the weak ones. also alot of lube is dripping from tranny, ima go get it changed tofday. also, for the brake fluid and clutch, it is pretty dark, should i fluch and put brake fluid with conditioner. ??

 

You sure its tranny fluid leaking and not some engine oil leaking off somewhere. Should have red tint it, no matter how old the stuff is.

Put up a video man, so we can see what your talking about. Just record the rpms, the mph area and the engine sound at the same time. And make sure we can hear it.

Check tranny fluid!. Im sure the clutch fluid is dark after 150k miles or so. Would be good matenance to change those if you know how to bleed everything right. If you dont know how to just leave it alown for now, if the levels are good.

It "should" pull harder in 1st and 2nd as you are blessed with a 3.42(IIRC) rear end ratio compared to my 3.23 and that helps with torq manipulation to make the V6 seem fast till it gets to about 60mph then its slow as crap in its stock form.

 

k, let me go check what is leaking, when i check the engine oil levels are good on it. let me go see just in case. will take a pic of what is leaking and upload. hold on a bit. thns

 

here is what is leaking?? im afraid its engine oil now, but the engine oil says its good? maybee old oil that has been around??

 

Looks like engine oil to me....

 

crap.... well ima take it to a shop for them to take since i cant lift it really high enough to check into it good.. i know by where its comming off of. its all dripping from the trranny holder. it was full of gunk. but then again i could be wrong. where should i start by cheking.??

 

Look at the rear of the engine where the dizzy(distributor) is and look where it actaully goes into the engine block. Theres a o-ring down in there that like to leak when they get old. Also check arround the valve covers, and the lower intake manifold(this is the manifold that radator hose go into from the passenger side of the radiator) Its the lowest one between the valve covers, that sits on the engine block.

Another place to look is at the oil filter area...and the oil pressure sensor that is screwed into the oil filter housing, youll know it when you see it as there is a wired connection on that sensor.

What you can do just to see how bad its leaking is to just lay a white paper towl under the tranny area, and back of the block, then run the car for like 10 minuets and see if how much it leaks out.

 

Its most likely engine oil... But Id still check the fluid level in the trans, and maybe even change it. Theres a possibility that its really OLD ATF, or maybe syncromesh that someone stuck in there at some point during a trans service.

The only real way to locate the leak is to clean the underside of the engine and trans as good as reasonably possible, and then drive it around. The area thats leaking should be wet with oil again. Also, parking it and then looking under the car can give some clues to where its leaking. The area with oil will be directly under where its dripping from the car. Not necessarily the area where the leak is, but if its under the tail housing of the trans or under the diff, then it rules out the engine as being the source of the leak. Also, what odor does the fluid have? Does it have a strong odor like gear oil? Does it smell like ATF?

 

What do you mean by "tranny holder" (must... resist... making puns...)

All joking aside, do you mean the bell housing on the back of the engine? If so, that sounds like a rear main seal leak. That possibly could cause the clutch troubles, too. If its bad enough, the oil can make its way out onto the back of the flywheel and get slung around the bellhousing, contaminating the clutch.

 

Hes a newbe... But ya im sure he means the belt housing. Thats the reason I said check the dizzy area too, my car was leaking oil arround that area and i almost changed my rear main, but thankfully my dizzy took a crap, i replaced the whole thing with new o-ring, and the leak went away.

Leaks are a PITA to find sometimes as its such a oil mess and you know how oil likes to take its paths to where ever.

But the rear main and the dizzy hold down area are a good spot to start!

 

ok well, when i drive i do get smell of oil, engine oil somewhat to be exact. also for some reason when i turnoed on car to leave the park it seemed like it wanted to turn off while idling.. it didnt but it seemed like it wanred to

 

Did you end up fixing the o2 sensor awhile back??

 

yea man, new one.

 

sounds like a rear main seal typically would see oil dripping where the motor and transmission meet... Like others have said can cause the clutch to slip. Really simple to tell if the clutch is slipping again like others have said RPM will rise when you slam the gas but the car wont react/go like it should( as you would put it RPM rises but the force isn't there)

 

k, yea like when i get into 4th and i slamm it, it does speed up, not like turbo fast but seems normal. somewhat slowish but again my car is a v6

 

Ok.. did you ever do anything to the dizzy(distributor) like adjust the timing or anything like that.

If your clutch is slipping..youll know it because your rpms with sky rocket and youll probly smell the clutch burning up... it really really stinks man!

If that o-ring on the distributor has never been changed...I would bet thats the issue or at least it needs to be looked at...

 

i replaced the rotor man, thats about it. i will get into looking on that, same as the rear main seal, i will go gt it checked

 

Yeah, that sounds like an oil leak. Damned hard thing to find on an old car, unfortunately

With all the old crud and oil caked on everything, it can be nearly impossible to isolate the leak. Sometimes a pressure wash can help if you have access to one. Does a good job of blowing all the gunk away, but it can create more issues than it solves if you have old, cracked weatherpack connectors.

Some common things that will cause a leak are the dist. seal, RMS, oil pan gasket, valve cover gaskets, rear intake china wall gaskets, etc... The way to tackle it is to spot clean around each gasket surface as best as you can with paint thinner and old rags, and look for fresh leaks.

If you can get access to your flywheel inspection cover, you can get a better idea of whether or not its an RMS leak. The inside of the bellhousing will have oil all over the inside. Other leaks will just cause oil to run down the outside of the BH.

 

k, still havent collected enough money to go get it checked, but im hoping soon because i dont want my dd to break down.