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305 major problem

Old Jun 17, 2013 | 05:43 PM
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305 major problem

alright so lets start off with it ran great when we first put it in the car. we took if for a drive and the motor didnt have a problem at all. before i took it for a drive and i put the car in time i forgot to take the vacuum advance lines off. i set the car at 8* but when my dad and i looked at total timing it was only at 9*. another problem we saw we were having was a holley 650 vacuum secondaries were leaking. we closed the secondaries and the car still wants to pop and it sounds cammed. the engine is a stock 77 camaro 305 with an edelbrock intake. i also noticed when i pulled the plugs it was running rich. within this time i had my valves adjusted. would them being adjusted hurt anything with the timing being that far off? and how to i make the car stop popping thru the carb? the carb im using sat for a good while before it was ever used until now (5+ years)
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 06:13 PM
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Car: 1994 Z28
Engine: 355 LT1
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Re: 305 major problem

Adjusting the valves won't hurt anything. Ignition timing and valve timing are different. Your biggest problem is removing the old motor and putting a 305 in it
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 06:22 PM
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Re: 305 major problem

it was a v6 and i got that motor for cheap so thats why i went with it. if i had money for the machine work i would have my 355 bottom end finished. how do i fix the popping and it sounding like its cammed? i went thru 50 in gas in 2 days and i only drive 12 miles to work. it smokes like crazy. i just want my car to run right
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 07:57 PM
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Re: 305 major problem

Total timing of 9 degrees will make it suck gas and have no power; find out why there's no advance. Also that Holley's probably gonna want a gasket kit and cleanup.
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Old Jun 18, 2013 | 01:01 PM
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Car: 85 firebird
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Axle/Gears: 3.42
Re: 305 major problem

Thanks ill start there. Would that cause it to sound cammed? It's basically a stock engine with an intake. I'm starting to file plugs
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Old Jun 18, 2013 | 01:07 PM
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Re: 305 major problem

Also does anyone know the actual number I should put the car in total time? I don't have my manual and all I can find is 36-40 degrees. To me that's a huge difference. I just want to make sure I have it right
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Old Jun 18, 2013 | 03:24 PM
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Re: 305 major problem

There is no set timing. Its different for every car. That is also too big or a carb for a 305, thats where youre running rich problems are coming from.
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Old Jun 18, 2013 | 04:00 PM
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Re: 305 major problem

What exact model Holley are you running? The number is located on the top left of carb with air cleaner off.
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