I already have it pictured... 91 RS repainted (really needs it!) matte black or flat black with some awsome scary drawings, maybe not called the nightmare camaro but something latin or something unique. and got to thinking.. what would scare the bageezus outta me? and others? i want a dark cackle coming from this car.. i think ill go with flat black side pipes and some old rusted american racing rims on this car.. something colorful and different.. noticed everyone loves a scary theme.. why not have it all around??
anyone thinking big block or third gen? im pulling for third gen sbc, but a big block is pretty scary territory...

 

I painted my entire car with rattle cans. The flat black took 3-5 coats before it was smooth enough to have consistent coverage. I let the paint cure at least 24 hours before coats then knocked it down with clean rags between coats. Over the years, the flat black has taken on more of a matte texture.

I masked off the flames and gave them a base coat of gloss white followed by gloss yellow. The tips of the flames were then done with orange then red. Using a proper spray gun instead of rattle cans, I could have done a better blending of the colors but I wasn't building a show car. I pinstriped the flames in light blue.

Big block scary? A 454 with aluminum heads and intake is about the same weight as a stock production SBC. There are a lot of threads on doing a conversion. My engine is 588 CID but it's far from streetable since it runs on injected alcohol.

 

Thats sweet!! one of the guys that actually looks into big blocks on this forum is basically routing me to go with a scary engine. this to me i want to be a roller short block 427 cube engine... i know people think the rollers need restrictions but i learned the oil going to the valve springs cool things off up there.... then theres the header situation.. could you solve that for me? i love side pipes on mine, because of the Cackle noise, but was wandering if big block headers cleared

Coarse, yours is all engine haha. i was thinking HO 427 with a built T10, cammed out for that scary scary noise

 

I think Hooker makes a header for the BB swap into our cars. I have been looking into these, the part number is H2226 I believe. So darn expensive that I have been searching for other options. Good luck with your project.

 

The Hooker swap header is the cheapest but it's also the worst to use. Not everyone gets them to fit properly. It's really just a street header with only 1-7/8" primary tubes and 3" collectors. Some people have had luck making factory manifolds fit but I don't know which manifolds they've used. Others have made less expensive headers designed for other cars work as well.

My engine is full roller. I use a shaft rocker system with no oil restrictions.

 

You could also build a BIG small block, 421, 434, 454. and that will fit
alot easier into a 3rd gen chassis.


World Products now makes a Hybrid small block;
a Gen 1 small block that accepts LS heads.

SO you have the best of both worlds.

You get the economy & durability of a Gen 1 short block assembly, the head flow capability of LS heads, big cubes, and less weight.

want more? bolt on a power adder.

just my

 

Side pipes make these cars look like they belong in a trailer park or a tractor pulling contest.

the only 3 cars side pipes ever look good on are; the Cobra, Viper, and C3 Vette.

 

That hybrid block seems like a huge waste to me. I can't think of one single benefit of it compared to just using an LS block to begin with. There's no "economy" when you consider the cost of the block compared to a perfectly usable 6.0 block, and the LS block is going to be stronger & more durable than the SBC hybrid block. The only benefit at all, is that you can run an SBC oil pan and motor mounts, but that's hardly a sufficient reason to dump that money into a frankenstein.

 

The Hybrid block uses:


SBC
oil pan
oil pump
crankshaft
rods
pistons
cam with 4 / 7 swap
timing set
standard motor mounts


LS Heads


Last I checked Gen 1 rotating parts cost less than LS parts.


'Frankenstein" how fitting OP wants to build a monster..

 

I'm sure those rotating parts DO cost less, but by the time you factor in the $2k or whatever it costs for that hybrid block, vs the minimal cost of the LS block and a cylinder hone, you're still into an assembly that uses an inferior SBC design for the same or more money.

Of course, this completely ignores the fact that the stock LS rotating assembly is as strong as most forged aftermarket SBC assemblies. If you reuse the LS rotating assembly, that's an even bigger advantage from a cost perspective.

 

http://www.theengineshop.com/product...ron-block.html


This is great way to get the performance of LS heads on Gen 1 engine. especially if you already have money invested in a SBC platform, you can re-use most all of your parts.

at some point you are going to exceed the strength capacity of an oem block.. be it a Gen 1 or LS so you are going to spend money on a aftermarket block regardless.

LS heads are cheaper than aftermarket 13 degree heads. and THIS is what really makes the LS a successful engine.. the cylinder head design..

I am not suggesting a "budget builder" making 400 HP go this route because a stock LS or gen 1 block is fine for that power level.

 

uhh i did grow up in a trailer park ok check out the shape and architecture. side pipes can be done on these... JS in my opinion

 

My play area was the road that ran through our trailer park. Lots of good memories about those days. I like the looks of those side pipes.

 

Those side pipes are too short on the f-body, it just looks bad, like someone stopped at the local chrome shop and threw them on without any thought about the design.

On the 'vette, cobra, and viper the side pipes are the same length as the rocker panel.
The proportions are correct and they belong on those cars.

 

They dont fit, they hang too low and ruin ground clearance, they're chrome when nothing else on the whole car is chrome, you lose the scavenging performance boost that a merge or crossover will get you. Sidepipes under ground fx is silly. Sport coupes arent any higher off the ground at the rockers than ground fx. Side pipes are just a terrible idea for a whole lot of reasons. It seems like a good idea but it just doesnt work on these cars. 2nd gens can do it, but even those it doesnt look that great, but tehy at least have the old school flaring sweeping lines that suit them.

Measure 3 inches under your rocker panel, and then see how much ground clearance is left after that. The car will look a WHOLE LOT meaner with a 2 inch drop than 2 inch side pipes, I promise you. The ground clearance will be the same either way.

Plus, mock up some side pipes and try to get out of the car without touching them with your foot/leg.

But hey, maybe you like this look, just realize you'll probably grow out of it one day. Hopefully.

 

OMG That's too funny.

 

uhh owell big block it is. try to run duels

 

back to the drive train.. i know im an unexperienced person here.. not with the original small blocks sorta speak, but with the lsx gen 3 engines. i was thinking big block.. but since the camaro is my dd and the 350 and the original 305 were great performers for a virgin camaro that gets 25 mpg on tbi set up, i wasnt really sure of the big block idea. so ive made up my mind.. im looking at some cheap 4.8 liters, and im sure if they have 170xxxx miles on them, itd be good to replace the pistons and bore it out to a 300 cubic inch, world class T-5 with a rebuild, not on budget.. i have no idea if im wanting to keep the EFI stock truck intake manifold due to clearance issues, and i would love to keep the tbi, or id hate to do it, but go carbed.. any help on the rear gear ratio set up for this combo please let me know.