What should the oil pressure be?
Thread Starter
Junior Member
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Car: 1990 Firebird Formula
Engine: 305 TBI
Transmission: auto
What should the oil pressure be?
I have a 1990 305 TBI. Only the stock gauges. What should the oil pressure read? It starts out ~38 when cold. After it is warm it is any where between ~28 and 33 when driving. I understand that this gauge is not the most accurate and that the pressure should vary as I drive etc. I just do not know what the ideal value is for this car.
Supreme Member
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,015
Likes: 5
From: Modesto, California
Car: 88 Firebird Formula
Engine: LO5 5.7 TBI/Ebl Flash
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 2.73 stock rear end
Re: What should the oil pressure be?
That sounds about right. Under small load , like idle, my oil psi is about 30-35psi. When I floor it (WOT) it jumps to 45-50 psi
Member



Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 497
Likes: 4
From: El Sobrante, California
Car: 1984 z28
Engine: Crate replacement L31R 350
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: 7.625" 28 spline 3.23
Re: What should the oil pressure be?
In an ideal world 10 psi for every 1000 rpm you spin on a small block Chevy.
Factory gauges are notoriously inaccurate so if you are worried about it put a mechanical gauge on it.
If my car only had 30 psi at 5500 rpm i would be babying it until I had another short block to install.
Factory gauges are notoriously inaccurate so if you are worried about it put a mechanical gauge on it.
If my car only had 30 psi at 5500 rpm i would be babying it until I had another short block to install.
Thread Starter
Junior Member
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Car: 1990 Firebird Formula
Engine: 305 TBI
Transmission: auto
Re: What should the oil pressure be?
Thanks for the reply. I just put it on the road on Monday and am still checking it out. I have not driven it hard at all. Only 'floored' it once or twice, smiling not watching gauges. the 28 - 30 is highway when it is not turning many RPMs. Beginning of the day it is higher but drops after a few miles after it warms up.
Member
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 180
Likes: 0
From: Chantilly, VA
Car: 88 Chimera
Engine: 1994 LO5 5.7L
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 2.73...?
Re: What should the oil pressure be?
I did an oil change and got 60+ psi at idle.
It went down from there as my engine consumed the oil and created a smoke screen so no one could see what I was up to.
My engine has lots of problems.
Question: If my dipstick was not seated correctly, I would add more oil to compensate for the increased height of the stick, right?
This increase in oil volume would increase the pressure too?
It went down from there as my engine consumed the oil and created a smoke screen so no one could see what I was up to.
My engine has lots of problems.
Question: If my dipstick was not seated correctly, I would add more oil to compensate for the increased height of the stick, right?
This increase in oil volume would increase the pressure too?
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 27,871
Likes: 2,430
Car: Yes
Engine: Usually
Transmission: Sometimes
Axle/Gears: Behind me somewhere
Re: What should the oil pressure be?
That's a bit low-ish compared to "normal", but plenty acceptable.
The "10 psi per 1000" is an old racer's rule of thumb for SURVIVAL, and good enough for answering the question "is it ENOUGH" in a RACING situation. It is not appropriate to a street motor, and in no manner way shape or form describes "normal" behavior of ANY engine EVER built. Ignore it for the purpose at hand.
You very well might. However, "not seated correctly", assuming that doesn't mean "was laying on the ground", wouldn't result in an error of more than half a quart or so, unless ... well, let's not go there.
No.
The pump draws in oil and pressurizes it. It is a "constant volume" design: it always draws in the same amount per rev, and the pressure is determined by how fast it bleeds down through all the engine's clearances. If it exceeds some preset amount, a bypass valve opens, thus limiting the max that it can ever be. The amount laying in the sump has no influence, directly, on the pressure.
The "10 psi per 1000" is an old racer's rule of thumb for SURVIVAL, and good enough for answering the question "is it ENOUGH" in a RACING situation. It is not appropriate to a street motor, and in no manner way shape or form describes "normal" behavior of ANY engine EVER built. Ignore it for the purpose at hand.
If my dipstick was not seated correctly, I would add more oil to compensate for the increased height of the stick, right?
This increase in oil volume would increase the pressure too?
The pump draws in oil and pressurizes it. It is a "constant volume" design: it always draws in the same amount per rev, and the pressure is determined by how fast it bleeds down through all the engine's clearances. If it exceeds some preset amount, a bypass valve opens, thus limiting the max that it can ever be. The amount laying in the sump has no influence, directly, on the pressure.
Last edited by sofakingdom; Jun 26, 2014 at 06:32 PM.
Re: What should the oil pressure be?
NO ! If the dipstick is not "seated correctly" , as in not pushed down far enough , it will show less oil (a lower reading on the stick) than is actually in the engine . If you fill it to the full mark with the dipstick not all the way pushed in , the engine will be OVER full of oil and this could lead to both the smokescreen you describe and the low oil pressure as the too full crankcase of oil is whipped into a foam by the crankshaft .
Get the stick installed properly before you ruin this engine due to overfilling the oil .......
PS , in the bad ol days when an oil check went with a fillup at the "full serve" gas stations (drivers were NOT allowed to touch the pumps in those days , only the attendant could) , not pushing the stick all the way down was a way for crooked attendants to sell more oil . It was called "Half sticking" and would make it appear to the customer that the oil was lower than it actually was , and so another quart of oil would be sold . This was advantageous to a crooked attendant who was being paid a per centage of the sales rather than an hourly wage ....
Last edited by OrangeBird; Jun 26, 2014 at 07:40 PM.
Trending Topics
Member
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 180
Likes: 0
From: Chantilly, VA
Car: 88 Chimera
Engine: 1994 LO5 5.7L
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 2.73...?
Re: What should the oil pressure be?
My apologies, my question was posed as " If my dipstick was not seated correctly AND I DIDNT KNOW IT, I would add more oil to because of increased height of the stick, right?"
Too much oil = low oil pressure?
Too much oil = low oil pressure?
Re: What should the oil pressure be?
And yes , it's true , if you overfill the oil with enough for the crankshaft to be in a standing level of oil (a quart and a half to two quarts overfull is usually enough) , the crankshaft will whip the oil into an airy foam that doesn't pump well through the oil pump nor lubricate well at the bearings where it is needed . I know it may sound crazy , but the only thing worse than too much oil is too little
Member
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 180
Likes: 0
From: Chantilly, VA
Car: 88 Chimera
Engine: 1994 LO5 5.7L
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 2.73...?
Re: What should the oil pressure be?
So then what would cause 60+ PSI on the stock gauge after an oil change filling it to where the stick says it should be?
Re: What should the oil pressure be?
It will start and run with good oil pressure , for a little while . It takes a minute or two for the oil to become foam and then the pressure begins dropping . The foam will return (somewhat) back into oil again when the engine is shut off and the same thing happens again the next time it's started .
Re: What should the oil pressure be?
Oh , I almost forgot , The overfull condition causes the smokescreen cause the excess of oil being slung around by the crankshaft makes it's way past the rings (especially if they're a bit worn) and burns along with the fuel in the cylinders ....
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post







