i was walking il walmart today when i saw a camaro performance magazine. went over, picked it up and started flipping through it. when i got to the centerfold i almost crapped my pants. there was an article on the 2002 SS ZL1 (yes, i didnt know they existed either!). they didnt say how many gm made, but this car is hot. LS6, 400 hp motor, T-56, 4.10's in the back, corvette Z06 rims, Z06 brakes, drop springs (1 in). they did go on to say this car could be ordered from the factory, so it wasnt just a one of a kind....but what a car......

ps. i can beat one in a STREET RACE, right???

Actually I'm pretty sure that is a 1 of 1. Its just a concept car, you can't order it from the factory. I have the same article, and I think the one guy wrote something like "They threw me the keys to the only ZL1" or something like that.

Hmm, concept car for one that is dead now. I think that proves they'll be back.

That car sounds SWEEEEET!

~Matt

Here's the car.

It definitely is a sweet ride.

Me wont one You guys think that could be a new Cobra.

Geeze news travels slow around here

Don't quote me but I think a dealer (maybe in Texas) made a bunch of those cars- think of it as a modern day Yenko.

They are bad-***- too bad GM couldn't do this from the factory

i think it would be a tight race but the zl1 has 20 more foot pounds and i would put my money on the ss

ohhh theres a post here that one guy wrote a quote from motor trend that stated

"we feel sorry for the ss driver that mistakes the 03 cobra from a 01"

heres my quote

"i feel sorry for the 03 cobra driver that mistakes the ZL1 ss for a stock ss with an apperance package"

hey why dont u scan the article and let us all see

last i checked u cant order a camaro, but im pretty sure that the ZL1 was a concept car that never went into production.. probably like how fords new gt-40 will end up.

If you bother to read MY post- it wasn't a production car but a dealer built car.

http://www.camaroz28.com/articles/2002zl1/index.shtml

Do a googel search= pretty easy to find more info

Yeah....kinda like the 302 Z/28 that was featured in M/T a while back.....dealer built. Pretty sweet car, but the blackout panel in the rear looks kinda tacky, since it only goes halfway up on the back.

The black-out panel is a retro look picked up from the '67&'68 Big Block Camaro's. I think it's great, not tacky, it's a part of camaro heritage. Although I'm mad Chevrolet doesn't have enough ***** to put a Big Block in the camaro to back up the black-outs.

But yea car looks awesome and probably goes like a banshee. I just wish they wouldn't have stopped making them, because now when I graduate I'm going to have to buy a new Mustang because it's the only original pony car left (Unless the GTO is as good as GM is making it out to be )

Later, Garrett

LOL, I know the origin of the blackout, I was just saying that it should go all the way up from the top of the bumper to the bottom of the spoiler. As is, it stops halfway up the tailights. As far as the lack of a factory Rat motor, that just goes back to the reluctance of GM to let any car tread on the Corvette's territory. And I hear ya as far as not being able to buy a brand-new F-body, but, oh well. Maybe later......

a gto isnt a pony a goat is in its own league its a musclecar not a pony

yea, its something about either GM made them as a test car... they just wanted to see what they could do...and yes, that could kill the new Cobra... seeing that the SS came within millaseconds behind the cobra in the autox and tied it in the 1/4... i think another 75hp would have that cobra walkin away with its tail between its legs... like the bitc-h car that it is.... that aint nothin.. go to supercars.net... look at that zl1... thats a beast!! 572bbc 700+hp... hold let me get a pic.... here u go... this is a beast...
572.0 cu in, 770.0 bhp @ 6900 rpm,683.0 ft lbs @ 5200 rpm

here u go srry

I have a video of that black one running 9.55. Bada$$.

ah man.. where did u get that movie? i want that, i saw it once... thats when i first started learin about camaros...havent seen it since...

I was just searchin on KaZaA one day and happened to get it. Is there a way to put it on here for you guys or does someone have to host it or something like that?

i think u can just link like a pic... kaaza doesnt work at my college.... dam firewall!! im gunna have to go lookin for it on the web... ahhhh

Well here goes nothin then.

Edit-Yeah I'm thinking that didn't work.

Actually, the new GTO wouldn't be a musclecar since the traditional definition of a musclecar boasts a live rear axle, while the new GTO would have an IRS. Nonetheless, the Holden Monaro is a slick car in it's own right, and I can't wait to see the new GTOs on the street. At least as long as Pontiac can refrain from putting 200 lbs. of ribbed body cladding on it.

the gto is gunna be irs? ah man... i dont want that... i want live axle... irs is nice... but not for me... the camaro better not be irs when it comes back... its just gunna blast the price beyond the limits....

Big Al- we were actaully refering to this car. While not built by GM but by a dealer
Think of it as a modern day Yenko.

Has a 400hp LS6
Z06 wheels/brakes
and quitre a few other distinctions.

another shot

LS6

One more- cause it's so pretty.
The 572 ZL1 was pretty neat but never had a prayer
of reaching production- unlike this ZL1 which could've been done comparitavely easily.

I think he knows what car we were talking about, seeing as how I posted a couple of those pics already.

really? From what I read I thought he didn't- I also didn't se your pics???
ah...go figure...

That's kinda like the 2002 302 camaro they made. Kind of like a COPO car...must be nice to drive something like that or the earnheart edition.

those are orgasm cars

yea, i have the super chevy with the red zl1 in it. Berger makes a killer camaro using the ls1... puttin out 380... thats a nice car! they have been around when yenko was around... thats whats awsome about it!

The company who makes those Camaros is about 5 minutes from my house, next to my father's warehouse. They also make the #3 Signiture cars....I think....I've seen alot of those Dale Camaros there as of late.

It actually pretty funny....all up and down the parkway in the business complex is nothing but burnout marks. They get cars from all over the world shipped to them, and do whatever it is that they do to them.

It cost an *** load of $$$$ though.

don't worry people camaro and firebird will return, they just need to restyle them. They would not have passed 2003 crash tests and they wanted to move the plant. But they can't build a new one till the old contract wears out, so they have to wait.

They need to make a return of the Dana camaros. In case you guys haven't heard about them, they were modified by Dana Chevrolet in South Gate California. They were similer to the COPO's and Yenko's in that they stuffed a built 427 between the fenderwells. They also dealer installed their own special hood and sprayed them a unique hue of orange, a little lighter than the hugger orange. They are also one of the rarest camaro's around as they were made in very limited quantities for the first gen. I love the fact that there is a camaro that shares my name. I guess I need to make some money and buy the dealerhip and start reproducing them when the 5th gen returns eh?