curious as to what a 69 camaro with a 396 runs stock in the 1/4 and what are the hp and tq stats

 

I don't know, but I sure would love to have one.

I wasted post 200 on this!

 

Stock would be like 14s most likely, those didn't come with the best tires back then, of course I'm sure now it could hit 13s with better tires, which I assume it has. This is just a guess, but I could be wrong.

 

they weren't actually incrediably fast for their hp. they were quite heavy too, all steel, no fibacrap. well a buddy of mine has a 1967 camaro SS 350, in ORIgional condition. he raced it a couple of times and ran a 15.0-15.3. I would say a 69 with a 396 is reasonable faster though. I would say about anywhere in a 14 stock, but there aren't many stock ones left around

 

Actually the funny thing is with all that metal, and no fiberglass the older cars were lighter (well some)! My '66 coupe weighed alot less than my '89, and the '89 had the back seat out, pass seat out, and lightweight fron runners! I would put my old car at 2800-3000 with me in it. My car was 3256 with the pass seat, and Drag Lites!

 

Oh ya, I would say theat car should see high 13s with traction, and 14s without it!

 

I know in 69' the 396 could be had with as much as 375hp and 400 lb of torque and with a 4 spd and a good driver could hit a mid 13 in the 1/4.

 

They are not that heavy. Id be surprised if my father's 67 camaro weighed more than my t/a, even with the big block. As for the question, hes got a 454 in his car. The 396 had low oil pressure (aka good reason to put bigger motor in). All I know is with a truck type cam, he is still able to make me look silly. My car is probably low 14 range, and he easily kills it.

 

I've got an issue of Camaro Performers where they had a vintage road test on a 396 SS Camaro. They got it to run 14.1@99, with traction and shifter issues.

 

my grandpa has a 68 dz302 z28.....he ran a 14.2 with it...that thing screams!!....he shifted it at 7,500....i love that little motor

im sure you could give a ls1 a run for its money with a 396

 

good luck finding one that's stock

and willing to race you

 

L35= 396/325hp
L34= 396/350hp
L78= 396/375hp
(RPO L89 added aluminum cylinder heads on the L78; no gains stated from the factory, supposedly 20hp gain with the heads)

Since those numbers are gross hp, just minus roughly 50hp from the numbers. Big Block Camaros were about 3300lbs curb weight; so with those numbers you can make your own judgements on times

 

I don't think stock the 396 would even touch a new LS1 for a few reasons. One the fact that the hp rating (as Iroc22 stated) was gross and not net so the LS1 is putting pretty much the same hp down. The second reason the technology increase is emense. The T-56 alone will wax the M-22's in the '69 Camaro.

So I'll tell you what, if you can find a stock '69 396 Camaro (Good Luck) and a stock '02 Camaro SS (w/ a stock LS1 and 6 speed) I'll take the '02 and beat you in the quarter by over a second and a half and just absolutly murder you in the turns ('69 Big Blocks couldn't handle for crap, or any Big Blocks for that matter!).

Actually I don't think the '69 camaro's where in the low 14's. I'm pretty sure the 302 was 14.8-14.9 and the 396 was somewhere about 15.0 - 15.2. Just my firstgen knowledge talking.

Later, Garrett

 

whats the diff between gross and net hp?

one flywheel one RWHP or something?

 

Actually, I think net is at the flywheel. Gross is without alot of functions that the car has to perform taken out. It was kind of dumd to have that rating in the first place. I'm sure someone can put this better than I can.

 

They're both rated at the flywheel. Gross hp is taken with only a water pump; and they use open exhaust. Net ratings are with all accessories in place (no A/C compressor), manifolds (headers if stock) and full exhaust with mufflers. Basically Net hp is "as installed".

 

Am I to think you're going to race one of these monsters, Wankie?

 

Ive raced a 67 camaro. It raped me pretty bad. Of course it has a 454 and it was from a roll. And it was my father. I told him wait till I supercharge my car. Im trying to beat him to motivate him to get a bigger cam and better heads. Of course he needs posi, so I can kill him off the line, then it comes howling by me.

 

i would of thought low 14s also..

 

when I get my turbo motor you can count on it if I see one