87transam5.7tpi

I got myself into a race next weekend w/ a new honda civic (coupe) 4 cyl. he won't tell me what all he has done, but I know for a fact no nitrous. what were these running stock? and what could he be running N/A? thanks....... also I have $75 on this race so that is why I'm asking.

thanks again

Josh

SYPHON556

Alright, I'm not a big street racer so I'm not gonna know a whole lot but let me tell you, I took my Camaro against a Civic today, no bets or anything just foolin around. My car isn't the fastest in the world but it can hold its weight, and let me tell you that Honda didn't have the highest top speed but it accelerated like a beast.

I take it you have no clue what's under the hood. If it's stock then it shouldn't be a challenge but if it's modified be prepared for anything.

87transam5.7tpi

well I do know he has a manual transmission. and the guy is friends of a friend. we just htought it would be fun.

87transam5.7tpi

what kind of car do you have? just curious, thanks

fast86z28

i wouldnt be to worried, its prob stock with maybe a cold air, and some colored wires under the hood, you have 4 times the mote twice the horsepower and a billion time the amount of torque he has....as long as your cars in good running shape it should be no contest..i wouldnt worry about it, i had the same deal some guy with a honda wouldnt tell me what was done till after we raced, and it turned out all he had done was cold air and a 40inch muffler...

SYPHON556

Okay, I'll answer your question but this is gonna be sad. I have an '87 convertable camaro with a V8 engine. Its not an IROC or anything so I don't know where the engine came from but somehow it's there.

The sad part is I got this car recently from my dad and I have no clue what's under the hood of my own car. I'm not that big of a mechanical guy so I can't tell much about my very own engine just from lookin at it. From driving and performance though, it can do about 6 to 7 seconds from 0-60 mph depending on road surface.

Ya I know it's pathetic I don't know a whole lot about my own car...

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What I do know though is that most of those "souped up" or "riced" Honda's are mostly loud exhuast and paint decals.

tpivette89

the fastest stock Civic is the SI model. it runs high 15s with a good driver. anything not nitroused/supercharged/turboed should be no problem for your 350 TPI car

IROCZTWENTYGR8

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I know that dude is new, but you will just beat that thing like its going in reverse.

Mark A Shields

Yup, easy kill for you. It really takes a good driver with a stick to drive those Civics good. And let's just say most those guys can't drive worth a dik prolly.

87transam5.7tpi

I know the guy knows how to drive good, I was haven't ever seen one run, so I didn't now if he could be running 12-13 w/ a few boltons but I'm guessing no now. thanks again for the advice

hndsm17

now i believe the only camaros that came as a convertable were TBI 305's yes? no? correct me if im wrong about thay but it doesnt matter if your carbed, TBI or TPI youll take him just dont let off the gas mid way like arounf 45 or even 65 because thats where there powerbands kick in just hammer it and dont let off untill he gets a nice view of your tails

fly89gta

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you really don't have anything to worry about...easy money

NastyEssCee

Im pretty sure they came with the TBI 305's but you never know...ive seen an 87 camaro vert with a lg4 carb so i dont know the stock production numbers or anything and im sure the carb lg4 was dropped in 86.....but SYPHON556 you should use the sites VIN decoder in it itll tell you the engine type stock and if it doesnt match up to a V8 then its anybodys guess where the hell the engine came from

87transam5.7tpi

well I'm trying ot move the race to tonight, so I can tear my car apart for winter this week. I'll let ya all know what happens, hopefully I'll win or else I'll feel stupid :-D

Mark A Shields

there were 305 TPI verts too.

MdFormula350

good luck, you should win by a good margin!

3.1EyeCandy

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Let us know!:hail: GTA tail lights!

BikertrashDude

yea if you have a 5.7 and he has no power adder (ie turbo, supercharger, or NOS) then he is dead.
biker

ChillPhatCat

'87 was the last year of the LG4 and it came with 170 Hp... So, considering convertables are heavier than coupes, I'd say it would run 16.0 with an LG4/L03 to 15.0 with TPI 5 spd

Civic coupes come around 16.5-16.7 stock... not too bad, but that takes someone that understands where the power band is and how to launch... with all possible bolt ons I would say that he could hit 15.8 or so... engine swap and it's anybody's game... it could probably run 14.0 with a type R motor ($7,000+).

As for a 5.7L Camaro, light mods could make you competitive with that Type-R motor... mind you that no coupe came as a type R, the only true Type-R's are right-hand drive Hatchbacks.

Jasper89ROC

Since the gs-r's and si's are about the same I thought id chime in. last year in highschool a kid w/ a gs-r, just cat-back and intake ran 14.6@9x on a 2.2 60' and I know its true cause about fifty kids from my school saw him do it. And a kid i used to work with ran 14.9 in his si w/ a cai only. Both of these kids are damn good drivers. Just a warning for ya, some are not slow(not slow meaning they can actually hit 14's n/a lol)
-Mark

ChillPhatCat

mmm... I wouldn't be concerned in any race against a civic or integra... I would give it my all, expecting to completly dust em.... If they beat me then they get props anyhow, I see it as win win... it is impressive to see a sleeper honda... not many of those punks really knows their *** from their elbow, and even the ones that have someone mod the car for them correctly (more than CAI and catback) then they knew enough to go further than those two accessories and in my book they become lagit.

92fire-audio

Race him off the line just to be sure.. If it is a modded SI, he MIGHT be able to keep up at highway speeds. But you would DESTROY him off the line..

Shouldn't have any problem with any N/A civic...

SYPHON556

O, forgot to mention, that Civic that I was foolin' around with, it wasn't a straight up race from a stop. I just happened to pass him really fast and he though I was racing so he hit the gas. Since I didn't want my Camaro to look retarded I hit the gas too. He caught up to me and almost passed me but then he hit his top speed in the Civic and my Camaro had a higher top speed so I just started cruisin' past him.

And on the issue of my engine, I can check the VIN number but I don't think it's stock. My speedometer only goes up to 85 and I know for a FACT it can go much higher. The little needle just starts to go up around the circle again but gets stuck at an odometer pin or somethin.

ChillPhatCat

The 85 speedo was stock for most cars, even the trans ams and z28's. It was a measure set in place by the government to discourage people from going above that speed... the speedo will just bounce up and down on the trip meter **** when it gets there... so the 85 speedo wasn't in place on only slow cars... just domestics in general.