Just read a good article on this car in Road and Track:
0-60: 5.1 SEC
1/4 Mile: 13.7 Sec

I realize it is turbocharged and its target sales are to compete with the WRX, and it is $30K, but I would hate to pull up next to one of these at the stoplight, would make for a tight race.

 

Isnt an 03' Cobra only $4k more than that? I will give more respect to fast imports when the average joe can own a fast one. $30k and it runs a half second slower than a $20k Z28 :hail:

 

Amen.

 

not bad times, it would kill me!!

 

I wonder how much power the internals can take. I wouldn’t be surprised if with a boost controller and a little race gas they could pull mid 12s.

 

WOW, A STOCK LS1 CAR WILL BEAT IT!...... lmfao and out handle it too....who CARES!!!!! You guys are so amazed by these awd jap tin cans it makes me sick, if you like them so much why don't you buy one 'nuff said

 

Good point. Most of these cars are fast cuz they need help going fast, either with a turbo or supercharger. Nothing really special about 'em.

 

well dan youre a close minded *** who doesnt know any better,and i hope you get your *** handed to you this year by one of these "awd jap tin crap" cars.and i can only imagine that these cars will be better when it comes to responding to mods then the DSM's that came before it,especially since it is faster and the motor is a slightly new design,although still based on the same 4G63 in DSM's.the internals are prolly a bit stronger and will take a bit more abuse that the DSM version can take,which by the way is alot.theres gonna be some of these around that will be in the 11's with very little time and money in the hands of the right owner.so no one should take one lightly.and no im not taking its side to whom ever wants to try and flame me.im only stating the facts.

 

I doubt a camaro would be able to out handle a Lance EVO, they are designed for rally racing.

I like them because you buy them stock and with a couple hundred into mods and you are in the 12s with a 2L engine. But given the choice I would take an LS1 over it any day.

 

Here is my problem with it. High 13's/low 14's was fast back in 1993 when stock Z28's were doing that for $20k. Low 13's/high 12's stock was impressive in the LS1 era and still is when a car that is just over $20k can run 12's and 13's in stock form. Now a car for $4k more than the evo (03' cobra) runs over a full second faster than the evo with tons of room to grow. I'm sorry but low 14/ high 13 second production cars were cool back in 1993. If these things were cheaper I could understand, but $30k to get beat on by LS1 cars that cost less than half as much boggles my mind...

 

ok listen up,

im sick of this "your close minded" and "imports are cars too" whiny bleeding heart p*ssy sh*t

we're talking about cars here not people. close minded has nothing to do with it. we arent talking about understanding someone elses feelings or some other cultures idea of what a good car is.

There 2 things involved here, just 2

economics and physics.

the 2 things none of us have enough of, money and cars.....and from an economic viewpoint as related to physics its better to start with a cheaper faster car in the first place that has more potential.

i dont know how many times i have to say this....

im involved in professional motor sports...and im a gearhead at the same time......so i see it from both angles....and the less expensive v8 crowd wins, period.

and ya knew you were being retarded or you wouldnt have expected to be flamed in the first place.

 

now that i have that off my chest,

that sucks if its supposed to compete with the wrx, arent those things like right around 20k?

 

Couldnt have said it better myself. If people didnt try to compare imports to domestics itd be cool, but people are stupid and make that comparison.

 

im not going to bash any car that can atleast run a low 14 in the 1/4 because probably 99% of cars i have to see every day won't and i live in Darlington S.C. were theres the 2 big tracks and a little hick race track on every corner. give it i think i cost to damn much just like that dressed up ****stain the cobra which isn't fast becuase it had to have a supercharger to pull it under a 15 second e.t. (argue this if you want, ford lover lol). but i would have to say i would rather have a wrx or srt-4 if i had to pick an in production today ***** toy. and both of those cars can be had for right at 20 grand around here. and i think the srt-4 pulls a lower time then 13.7 e.t. but im not 100% on that. and as for all of these new cars it wouldn't bother me to take a pee on them.
i spent 2k for my 89 formula firebird (first car, anymore 130mph flats it will probably be my last car too). it had a tpi 305 in it that i got to run down into 14.6 with a stock motor and stock 700-r4 with 3.23 gears in the open diff 10 bolt.
i spent 4k to build a stroker 383
spent 500 more on a th-350 race preped
spent 200 on a 3000rpm stall (needed about 3500)
after 6,700 dollars worth of new parts and doing the labor myselfi can run a 12.2 all day long and if i spray it i end up in the mid 11's but it isn't consistent but never more then 11.7 in the 1/4.

when you can find a car as nice as mine (not the best but nice) and ad a motor and tranny with all new **** for less then 7k you'll then no why i would rather pee on a new car then buy one.

damn that was kind of long wasn't it , sorry about that

peace.

 

Maroon you're just mad because my z/28 will own your RS and your tincan anyway those 4 cyl. cars have no go unless they get a hairdryer to get em there (now imagine a v8 n/a car that runs 10's and putting a turbo on that!) All I have to say is those cars are for chumps... if I wanted an AWD i'd buy a freekin pickup. I don't mean to flame but I say it like it is... don't like too bad, go cry to someone who cares!

 

OH AND ANOTHER THING! I can't believe you're calling me 'close minded' just because I don't like something you do... who's close minded now? that's enough with this post now... this isn't the place for it..

 

Whats wrong with comparing the two? I would say its perfectly legitimate to compare a BRAND NEW $20 K import to a BRAND NEW $20 k domestic....

Subaru WRX...Dodge Neon....

They run about comparable times corret? (WRX slightly faster) I would take the WRX anyday, it looks way better and has AWD. So it can be argued that bang for the buck (with low dollar new cars), belongs to the imports.

But it definatly seems like when more money gets spent ($30 - 40 k ) ....Domestic all the way, even these new fangled "super duper evos" arent nearly as fast as a stang or a camaro.

ANd formula89383 , how can you comare a used car to a new one? I mean , im sure some people could build a 12 second car for $1,000 using all second hand and junkyard parts, but is it really fair to compare that (although fast) POS to a brand new car?

Not really

I mean using that example we could lump a slightly used LS1 "30 K miles or so" into the around $10,000 range with lets say....a brand new Hyundai accent.

Again Comparing is fine, as long as you compare things that are in the same leauge

 

subaru wrx = awd turbo
dodge neon = n/a fwd

 

dodge neon srt-4=fwd turbo FYI

 

think before you guys post next time.