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Old Apr 17, 2003 | 07:33 PM
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Got took by a mostly stock 4.6 4v

ok heres the catch, it was in a 89 lx hatch. it had the t56 tranny in it and some rear suspension work. he rolled up on me at a stop-n-rob and asked me if i was stock. after i told him what i had he asked if i wanted to run em, i said ok. we lined up at a light and when it turned green we left. i pulled about 1-1.5 lengths in first and then about half way through second he flew past me and walked about 2 lengths and stayed. i was running about 115 so it was close to a 1/4. we then went back to the stop-n-rob and i asked him what he had and he told me and let me check it out. it was a bone stock 2001 cobra motorwith a php intake and erson strip cams! i was in shock! the power of those motors in the foxbody cars is a lethal combo. i have mad respect for those 4.6 4v motors now. he also had 4.10 gears and off road exhaust. that motor looked wicked in that car.
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Old Apr 17, 2003 | 08:12 PM
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nice run sucks that you lost but that 4.6 fox body combo sounds wicked
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Old Apr 17, 2003 | 08:51 PM
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Awesome! Once I finally graduate and get a real job, I'm planning on building a 4.6 powered fox body. Best of both worlds there...
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Old Apr 17, 2003 | 09:33 PM
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wow:hail:

i would of never expected to see that combo, sounds like an awesome car.

good run still.
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Old Apr 17, 2003 | 10:02 PM
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Yeah, those DOHC Foxes really haul ***.

I've really been having the urge to just yank the Motor from my Mark VIII and toss it in my Stang
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Old Apr 17, 2003 | 10:33 PM
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Yup I raced a cobra the other day and he walked me good you gotta watch out for them twincam 'stangs they got the top end on [almost] any danm near stock 3rd gen .....they're purty quick....
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Old Apr 17, 2003 | 11:14 PM
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A guy in our club had a 4.6 DOHC in his LX and the one time at the track went 13.2 before the car fell apart (literally, blew out the glass). This was with a 2.2 60' and shifting below redline! Very fast set-ups!
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Old Apr 18, 2003 | 11:22 AM
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yeah i was surprised by the power of that damn thing. i have nearly 450 hp and that motor couldnt have been pushing but around 350-375 hp tops. the thing that ate me up was traction, i run some pretty good tires but i still cant get traction on the street. i dont hook up until about the middle of third. it was a good race, but when i get my et streets i am going to race him again.
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Old Apr 18, 2003 | 05:56 PM
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Wow, never heard of a car running that combo. Sounds crazy.
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Old Apr 18, 2003 | 10:02 PM
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Not to take away from your story or anything, but you really consider that mostly stock? I wouldn't consider a cammed and geared cobra mostly stock. I'de take a nicely modded 5.0 over a modded 4.6 any day.
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Old Apr 19, 2003 | 03:14 PM
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i was refering to the internals and heads mainly, but that car would obliterate any 3rd gen with the same mods in any case. i am a firm believer in the 4.6 motors, i think that they have more performance potentil than a ohv motor hands down( i am a blower lover) i have seen them pushing 600 hp with stock unported heads. as soon as i get enough money to build a car like that it's on. not to start any trouble but the only reason that i drive a third gen or even a chevy is the cost, i would give a limb to be in a 03 cobr or mach 1.
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Old Apr 19, 2003 | 05:24 PM
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I'd personally much rather have a 4V 4.6 over a 5.0. As soon as I get the money, the 5.0 is gone and I'm getting a Cobra.
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Old Apr 19, 2003 | 09:23 PM
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Originally posted by Jason87350
i was refering to the internals and heads mainly, but that car would obliterate any 3rd gen with the same mods in any case. i am a firm believer in the 4.6 motors, i think that they have more performance potentil than a ohv motor hands down( i am a blower lover) i have seen them pushing 600 hp with stock unported heads. as soon as i get enough money to build a car like that it's on. not to start any trouble but the only reason that i drive a third gen or even a chevy is the cost, i would give a limb to be in a 03 cobr or mach 1.
I myself am not a huge fan of the ohc motors. I would prefer the massive torque, simplicity, and value a pushrod engine makes over an ohc motor any day, but thats just my opinion. There are plenty of pushrod engines making well over 600 hp as well and doing it way more cheaper at that.

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Old Apr 20, 2003 | 09:39 AM
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Thought yall may appreciate that picture...11.10 @ 123.43 with a bone stock '03 Cobra motor ' :hail: :hail: :hail:
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Old Apr 20, 2003 | 12:02 PM
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[IMG]11.10 @ 123.43 with a bone stock '03 Cobra motor ' :hail: :hail: :hail:
sorry it aint happening on a stock cobra motor, if by stock you mean stock internals then i would believe it, but if you meant completely stock then hell no!
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Old Apr 20, 2003 | 08:23 PM
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Bone stock motor does NOT equal bone stock exhaust, gearing, computer, transmission, etc. Think about it...they're trapping 110 - 112 stock at 3600 - 3700 lbs. Now drop that into a 2900 - 3000 lb fox body with the suspension to put the power to the ground...you'd better believe it
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Old Apr 20, 2003 | 08:40 PM
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i'm not gonna argue with you, but i still don't believe it. If it's true then thats damn impressive.
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Old May 1, 2003 | 12:33 PM
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Do you believe an 11.50 @ 110 mph? I watched a WS6 pull that time here at IRP. 110 mph trap speed is not particularly impressive for an 11.5 second run. That is becaue he dumped all his money into the car not the engine. The car left like it was shot out of a catapult, but by the 1/8 he was pretty much so just along for the ride. So, I'll buy an 11.10 @ 123 all day long with a 390 HP engine.
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Old May 1, 2003 | 01:28 PM
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I believe it.
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Old May 1, 2003 | 05:01 PM
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Just out of curiousity, how easily can you get a 03' cobra motor and what kind of prices would we be looking at? Where would I get one from? I want one, now!
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Old May 1, 2003 | 06:04 PM
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This may help http://www.modularfox.com/

I have a source for 4V motors/4R70W trannies/wiring harnesses for a little under $1000 if you're seriously interested.

edit: Those aren't '03 Cobra motors that I can get for that price
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Old May 1, 2003 | 06:54 PM
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You can get the pre-03' motors/trans AND wiring for that price? Let me know some more info man, im really interested. FordMustang302r@aol.com is my email. Thanks alot Nic
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Old May 1, 2003 | 07:30 PM
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I have nearly 450 hp

Are you sure ?????
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Old May 11, 2003 | 08:17 AM
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Re: Got took by a mostly stock 4.6 4v

Originally posted by Jason87350
ok heres the catch, it was in a 89 lx hatch. it had the t56 tranny in it and some rear suspension work. he rolled up on me at a stop-n-rob and asked me if i was stock. after i told him what i had he asked if i wanted to run em, i said ok. we lined up at a light and when it turned green we left. i pulled about 1-1.5 lengths in first and then about half way through second he flew past me and walked about 2 lengths and stayed. i was running about 115 so it was close to a 1/4. we then went back to the stop-n-rob and i asked him what he had and he told me and let me check it out. it was a bone stock 2001 cobra motorwith a php intake and erson strip cams! i was in shock! the power of those motors in the foxbody cars is a lethal combo. i have mad respect for those 4.6 4v motors now. he also had 4.10 gears and off road exhaust. that motor looked wicked in that car.
VERY COOL!

Some day if I get some of my other projects done I'ld like to build a mini-tubbed '64-'65 ford falcon w/a DOHC 4.6.
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Old May 11, 2003 | 08:31 AM
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Nice pic, Nic.

Originally posted by 25THRSS
sorry it aint happening on a stock cobra motor, if by stock you mean stock internals then i would believe it, but if you meant completely stock then hell no!
You don't see how a blown dohc motor that makes 390 hp stock could run low 11's in a fox body?
Your pulling a motor out of a car that runs 12.6 in a heavy car with an IRS, and dumping it into a much lighter car with a solid 8.8, also I'm sure that stang has been tied together,has a real exhaust, and some good tires.
I can see it running those times.

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Old May 11, 2003 | 09:39 AM
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nevermind, its not worth it

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Old May 11, 2003 | 09:42 AM
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Old May 12, 2003 | 09:49 PM
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I have been considering the DOHC swapout alot, pretty much as soon as one of my 2v 4.6's crap out it's time to go bigger...
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