Well, Friday night is the night my friends. I will finally get to race this chick i lost to about 2 months back with my old 350 carbed (POS..Never ran right!). K she has a completely bone stock 95 z28 with 68k miles. THe car is in decent shape but i dont think its had a tune up for quite a while. Well my car has a new accel cap and rotor, 2.77 posi, new plugs and wires, new yokohoma yk420 tires, 2600 stall, modded air box with k/ns, bumped up timing and tps, and a 3" dynomax exhaust.Anyone think i can win in a 1/4 race with these mods. If not i might hold off and wait till i get the afpr, port the plenum, and airfoil.

depends on what gears the car has... Z28s could either have pathetic 2.73s or much better 3.23s.

my girlfriend has a 113k mile 94' Formula (3.23 gears with auto trans) and WITH HER DRIVING went 13.9 at 101mph with a 2.1 60ft. the only mod the car has is a K&N cold air kit. so if this chick youre racing can drive, be careful

hmm not sure on the gears but i think she said she had a bent axle. Shes very cocky and i had to tell ehr what a lt1 was. So its pretty much shes gonna mash the pedal and hope the car goes straight

With some New gears you should take her out. But, with those crappy highway gears.....I wouldnt put myself through that again.

I think TPI will be more forgiving with the gearing due to the torque factor. An LT1 with 2.73's is an even lousier combo. I think you can beat her. I raced a '94 auto TA, bone stock with 130,000 miles on friday and it ran a 15.10. It was the slowest LT1 F-body I've ever seen and I'm near sea level. It's very common to see them run in the 13.9-14.4 range but you should be running there as well so, Good Luck!!!

People always seem to talk about tpi torque and how it would beat an LT1 off the line. Fact is LT1's make about the same amount of torque but at a very low 2400 rpm. TPI doesn't make it's torque until sometime after 3,000 rpm so in reality the LT1 has more torque down low than tpi does.

That's odd. I always thought since Peak HP came in at a higher RPM with an LT1, that torque would follow suit. At any rate, the same day I dynoed the Z there was a 95 auto Formula that went before me. He had very similar minor mods, nothing special. His car dynoed 255 HP and 306 Ft. Lbs. TQ. Not a lot of difference, I give up a little HP, he gives up a little TQ. My history with LT1's both at the track and on the street is that I can usually jump out to a car or two lead and then slowly watch it diminish as the race progresses. I did race an LT1 with a Yank converter and minimal mods and saw tailights all the way.

like 25th said...lt1's peaked at 2,400 and the curve is very flat...
the LT1 makes more low end then the L98 but the TPI makes more mid range then the LT1...

9 times outta 10 the TPI car will pull the LT1 to about 70 (stock to stock)..then the LT1 starts pullin away...

kinda like LT1 vs. LS1...up to about 70 there pretty tight but after that the LS1 says bubye

If she is an auto with the cruddy gears it will be close. I would say that my LT1 has great midrange and super high end (M6 w/ 3.42's). I do not think it is as mean off the line as everyone says they are. If you are a good driver and you get the jump and have a flawless run you may edge her out. But be careful, there are a lot of under rated factory freak LT1's out there. Since you too are plagued with bad gears I would say she will walk you. If hers is an M6 with 3.42's you will lose by quite a few lengths (if she can shift). I think this one is down to driver.

Yea like i said i dont know the gears on it wish i did though. Yea, she has an automatic so no worry about the manual. Also, ehr axle is bent would this prevent a good launch?Im a good driver and can flash the converter pretty well so im thinking i could win. I know shes gonna start pulling at the end but...im hoping to put enough distance on her to win it! Root for me guys Ha

I'd hope so. I'd hate to lose to a chick!

If you know her pretty well, like a neighbor or just a buddy, try and check her RPO codes in her center council. That should tell ya the gear ratio she has.

Good luck bro, always nice to see a third gen beat a fourth.

na i dont know her that well. I may check before the race though. Yea well sumtimes it doesnt matter if its a girl or not if there car is faster its faster if all they gotta do is mash the pedal u know. not to say there arnt good girl drivers (few there and then ). But, when its auto versus auto and all u gotta do is push the pedal to the floor u can be a monkey and win.

Yeah, the LT1 makes its TQ at really low RPM, (2,400 compared to our 3,200) but it never made over 335TQ compared to our 345. When their TQ falls off ours is still going, then when our HP falls off, theirs is still going.

P.S. Anyone have any good suggestions on how to launch. Im ok at it but i still ant flash the converter at the fullest copasity. I know i need a trans brake and what not to get the ful lstall thats not what i mean. I mean i cant really launch without getting wheel spin and actually hurting my run more. Is it better to rev it up and ease the foot in to the gas? Or mash into it? any suggestions. I mean i jsut put he new yokahomas on ther so i should grip decent

do a phat burnout first....heat em up, then when you race, just mash it. you better get her off the launch....girls cant launch.

It is pretty useless to do a burnout on a street tires. All you do is take serious life away from it and they cool down so fast the heat doesn't stay in them. If you spin really easy I would just start from an idle, feather the pedal so you have a little suqeel and then after the little squeels go away curl your toes as far onto the pedal as you can and hang on. You may want to shift manually if your car shifts to soon on its own. Some girls can launch though. Don't let the fact that she's a girl fool you. If she has had this car from time to time she probably knows what the limits are before she spins on takeoff. You kind learn by default on cars like these.

....and watch the lt1 rip you off the line. then keep pulling on you because you have less hp & tpi.

don't ease into it....the girl in the lt1, if she just nails it, she's gunna get wheel spin too. just warm em a lil bit, and nail it when it goes green.

That is my point. If he mashes the gas and she does to they will launch the same. If he eases into it and she stomps on it he will get the jump. If they both feather it off the line then they will be again be even. I was banking on the fact that she would stomp on it and trying to deter him from doing the same thing. Thats how he will win.

i guess my cars different then...
i almost never get tire spin since i have been doing it that way. i jus grab n go.

I have never driven an auto L98 but I would compare it to my LT1 (low end torque that is). It is an M6 but I can break them loose so easy you have to be careful on the launch. You must have great traction. Anyways if that is the case just stomp and go

my car used to get no traction. if i nailed it, it would go sideways a bit....but since i got the poly torque arm bushing, and new tires, it jus takes off.

i guess it's a good thing, i kinda miss sliding sideways a lil bit though...lol

Really? I'll burn out everytime I put the pedal to the floor with my L98 even with Edelbrock traction bars and meaty BF 265's out back.

if u win do u get her

ha, na wouldnt wnat it neither . Its alright though shes cool, she jsut needs to be less cocky. And besides that i hate to loose. I talked to her she wants best outta three so ill try both ways! thanks for the replys guys

maybe my cars jus gettin old n weak.

almost rebuildin time


hey goodluck. hope you dun get beat by a girl. lol

did you race her or what? update!!

Yeah, what happened??? Enquiring mind want to know

hey sorry guys...well we havent officaly done it yet! Still waiting its ok cuz while heers is being unmodified im doing all the free mods. and maybe even gears. we went from a light to light and i took her though no biggy yet ha. Soon and ill be sure to post it.

When your done playin with gurls ya wanna line em up? I have a lonely 305 tpi thats stock except for headers and exhaust. Let me knowmaybe we can put some cash like 50 on it??

If he is beating her from light to light than I don't think you have a chance. Even with a full exhaust. I wouldn't risk the 50. Just do it for fun, that way if you lose you can use that 50 for some mods.

the way i c it is there is no shame in losing to a faster car....now losing to a girl...that sucks!...good luck man.

I smell a hustle!!!

Me too.

Naw no hustle he knows what I run I know what he runs.(only .1 different in the 1320) I have nothin to hide Ill pop.

I just picked up a 3rd gen and I'd be willing to get down with either of the guys from Lockport. I'm in Homer

I don't know about how you guys drive but 2 years ago I ran an LS1 with an SLP loudmouth exhaust and nothin more with my stock 350 TPI, 3000 stall, LCAs, 3.27s, built tranny with manual valve body and shift kit, and catback. I had him beat til 75 MPH three times we raced, but everytime, right around 75 he'd just start pulling like mad to about two to three cars on me to 100 when I shut down and that is only cause with running TPI and a stock cam and manifolds, I ran out of RPM at 5000 and had to shift. If you're running a stall, have good tires, and know how to drive and your car is in tuned up and in good condition, you'll fustigate a stock auto LT1. I have done so many many times. And they didn't hang for ****, I had a hole shot and a straight walk on many of them to 3 or 4 cars, only a 6-speed started catching up. A few of them had headers and minor bolt ons or 3.73s and they were more of an even race. btw, I ran a 13.8 with my car and those mods on street tires. I still maintain that a G92 L98 in good condition with a few mods (mostly free mods and exhaust) can hold its own against a stock Lt1 just fine.

Yeah, thats pretty much how it goes. I've raced my brother in law many times in my 87 against his 02 T/A and I could jump him out of the hole and stay ahead of him till about 70 mph then he would just go walking by me.

Nothing against L98's or LT1's but I've owned all 3 and still own 2 and my LS1 would walk 'em both even when it was stock I've g-tech'd 'em all and 0-60's were in the 6.0 range for both my IROC and 96 TA auto and my 00 ran around a 5.0 stock and it's around 4.5 now. My IROC "feels" like it has better throttle response than my 00 but the 0-60 times prove otherwise. Maybe 60ft to 0-30mph times would favor the ROC but no way would it hang with my 00 after that.

Maybe the LS1's you guys messed with either had m6's with bad drivers or spun like hell?? I dunno

we both spun decent amount, had it been a 1/4 mile race and I were running my 13.8 on the street he would've ran a 13.5 against it so that's pretty normal for an unmodified LS1. My IROC had a stock motor, but the tranny and torque converter weren't, and if you want to count exhaust... I didn't gtech these results either, the 13.8 was a track time

Ahh, if you're running 13.80's I can fully understand it then. I just find it hard to believe that a stock/slightly modded say mid 14 second car can hang with a ls1 even off the line. My 96 and 00's both 60 footed in the 1.9/2.1 range and I really need to get my IROC to the track to see what it'd do to fairly compare em......

By the way that's a nice running l98 you have there

Nape Id be happy to take a look and see what you have. Maybe we can set somethin up?

I am very confident in my driving skills. if you've got a fully tuned G92 350, there shouldn't be anything keeping you from running a 14.3-14.5 bone stock, or at least trapping that MPH. I ran a 14.7 first time out, then tune up, new tires, and Synthetic oil, ran a 14.4 @ 97. Broke my tranny so I replaced that, put in a 3000 stall, and did all the free mods and exhaust, 13.8 with 50 psi fuel pressure on a stock motor. Right now I am using the stock block abeit, with mains splayed 4-bolt, and bored it out .030" to and a racing rotating mass from speed-o-motive slightly stroked to a 363. Why 363 you ask? Cause speedomotive advertised 500 FWHP and sprint cars love 363.

Any of you south Chicagoans wanna try out a 91 Z' for small $$$. Nothing less than 100.00 though. I spot if it is deserved. I'll probably have the car at AJ's this Sunday.

I wouldn't, I'd be lovin' it.... I think chicks that dig cars and went through the trouble to get/make a fast enough car and can drive well enough to beat me, rock.