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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 04:26 PM
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92 Z-28 Vs. 94-95 5.0 Pony

1992 350 cubic inch stock z-28 auto camaro vs. a 94-95 5.0 GT manual. Who would win? should be a very close race right?

Thank you - Pete
Old Jan 10, 2004 | 04:47 PM
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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 05:19 PM
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Re: 92 Z-28 Vs. 94-95 5.0 Pony

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1992 350 cubic inch stock z-28 auto camaro vs. a 94-95 5.0 GT manual. Who would win? should be a very close race right?

Thank you - Pete
Stock 5.0 '94 - ' 95 GT's arn't something you'll have to worry about (high 14 to low 15 sec cars I believe).

'91 - '92 350 TPI sd Z-28 vs. '88 - '93 LX/GT = Depends whos the better driver.
'91 - '92 350 TPI sd Z-28 vs. '94 - '98 GT = Z-28.
'91 - '92 350 TPI sd Z-28 vs. '99 - '04+ = Close race but the GT takes the win, unless he can't drive.

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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 07:45 PM
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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 08:00 PM
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Yeah don't even worry about it, those 5.0 mustangs are pos's, they only have a like 220 horses compared to your 350 w/ probably around 240hp, so you'll probably kill him!!! Don't Worry, but thanks for the laught anyways!!!
Old Jan 10, 2004 | 08:29 PM
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If only GM had of offered a decent manual tranny for the 350 TPI cars. Then all this talk of 5.0 stangs being superior from 87+ would never have seen the light of day. Even saddled with an auto the 350 TPI was at least good competition for the 5.0s year for year... Stupid GM...
Old Jan 11, 2004 | 12:59 AM
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Dude your z is a low 14 second car, and that gt is a mid 15 second car, that model gt is slow i used to kill my my friends 94 gt when it was stock with headers and a full exhuast w/ no cats. Sure your Z only has like 20 more hp but you have like 50 more ft lbs of torque and I think that year stang weighed a good amount. Go ahead and smoke him.
Old Jan 11, 2004 | 03:21 AM
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Should be a decent race, with you winning. That car is anywhere from a mid 14 second car to a mid to high 15 second car. It all lies on the driver because it is a stick. And we all know a lot of people are afraid to actually DRIVE their cars (we call them pu$$ies).

Also thank *** we got sticks. Autos suck, I would never race one, even if it was faster. Real Race cars have 3 pedals (I really hate autos, and before you bash me, I had one in this car).

Fbody should have this one.
Old Jan 13, 2004 | 10:06 PM
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You should smoke a 94-95 GT with a Z. I beat one with my 305 TBI pretty good...
Old Jan 14, 2004 | 11:29 AM
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Originally posted by 25thmustang
Should be a decent race, with you winning. That car is anywhere from a mid 14 second car to a mid to high 15 second car. It all lies on the driver because it is a stick. And we all know a lot of people are afraid to actually DRIVE their cars (we call them pu$$ies).

Also thank *** we got sticks. Autos suck, I would never race one, even if it was faster. Real Race cars have 3 pedals (I really hate autos, and before you bash me, I had one in this car).

Fbody should have this one.
Just because the ford AOD transmissions suck doesnt mean you have to bring the rest of us down
Old Jan 14, 2004 | 01:16 PM
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It should be a good race. If the Mustang driver knows how to drive, it will be close.
Old Jan 14, 2004 | 01:29 PM
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Just because the ford AOD transmissions suck doesnt mean you have to bring the rest of us down

I think the point he's trying to make is it doesn't take much to floor the gas and hold onto the steering wheel. If you're gonna race..might as well atleast drive the car.
Old Jan 14, 2004 | 02:25 PM
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I think the point he's trying to make is it doesn't take much to floor the gas and hold onto the steering wheel. If you're gonna race..might as well atleast drive the car.
Thank you sir... exactly what I mean.

Anyone can make an auto car fast, but it takes actual skill to make a stick car fast. I know GMs autos are good, but boring beyond belief, same as any auto car!

Arent 305 TBIs 16 to maybe high 15 second cars? If thats the cas how did you beat one pretty good, unless he wasnt racing? Just curious.
Old Jan 14, 2004 | 02:40 PM
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Originally posted by CobraKiller
I think the point he's trying to make is it doesn't take much to floor the gas and hold onto the steering wheel. If you're gonna race..might as well atleast drive the car.
It takes a lot more than that to drive a car CONSISTANTLY. Not to mention if your car goes up in smoke without the right throttle feather.
Old Jan 14, 2004 | 02:42 PM
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Thank you sir... exactly what I mean.

Anyone can make an auto car fast, but it takes actual skill to make a stick car fast. I know GMs autos are good, but boring beyond belief, same as any auto car!

Arent 305 TBIs 16 to maybe high 15 second cars? If thats the cas how did you beat one pretty good, unless he wasnt racing? Just curious.
If you rode in a car with 530 horsepower, another 175 of squeeze and a 5000 stall you would be surprised.
Old Jan 14, 2004 | 05:23 PM
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If you rode in a car with 530 horsepower, another 175 of squeeze and a 5000 stall you would be surprised.
I have rode in and drove quite a few cars with 500+ hp. Sticks and Autos and let me tell you, NOT even close. A 300 hp car with a stick is a lot more fun than a 600 hp car with an auto!
Old Jan 14, 2004 | 05:57 PM
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I have rode in and drove quite a few cars with 500+ hp. Sticks and Autos and let me tell you, NOT even close. A 300 hp car with a stick is a lot more fun than a 600 hp car with an auto!
that's right
Old Jan 14, 2004 | 06:03 PM
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I have rode in and drove quite a few cars with 500+ hp. Sticks and Autos and let me tell you, NOT even close. A 300 hp car with a stick is a lot more fun than a 600 hp car with an auto!
How?
Old Jan 14, 2004 | 07:30 PM
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How?
Because unlike some I like to do all the work behind the wheel. Anyone can launch and race an auto, it takes true talent to race a stick car. I dont know if you have heard of Evan Smith but he has to be one of the best drivers out there. he didnt get that title racing an automatic car, he got it racing stick cars!

You may think differently, but give me a stick car anyday of the week. Sure they launch hard and whatnot, but I myself would rather have to clutch and shift than sit there and do nothing! To each his own.
Old Jan 14, 2004 | 09:01 PM
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Originally posted by 25thmustang
Because unlike some I like to do all the work behind the wheel. Anyone can launch and race an auto, it takes true talent to race a stick car. I dont know if you have heard of Evan Smith but he has to be one of the best drivers out there. he didnt get that title racing an automatic car, he got it racing stick cars!

You may think differently, but give me a stick car anyday of the week. Sure they launch hard and whatnot, but I myself would rather have to clutch and shift than sit there and do nothing! To each his own.
I shift, and true power shifting the only difference is jamming a clutch in at redline. EXCIIIIITING.
Old Jan 14, 2004 | 10:23 PM
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I shift, and true power shifting the only difference is jamming a clutch in at redline. EXCIIIIITING.
No you push a lever. I clutch and shift, big difference, what I do takes skill and talent, what you do takes... an arm. Thats just what I feel, maybe you think it takes as much skill to drive an auto, thats fine, but then again i dont. I would rather drive my way to good times than let the car do it.
Old Jan 14, 2004 | 10:28 PM
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Originally posted by 25thmustang
No you push a lever. I clutch and shift, big difference, what I do takes skill and talent, what you do takes... an arm. Thats just what I feel, maybe you think it takes as much skill to drive an auto, thats fine, but then again i dont. I would rather drive my way to good times than let the car do it.
couldn't have explained that one better myself.
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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 12:42 AM
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Manual=excuse for losing

"I missed a shift" "i ****ed the launch up" "i didnt feather the clutch" "i bogged the motor" "i missed 3rd" "i short shifted 2nd" etc, etc, etc
Old Jan 15, 2004 | 01:03 AM
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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 01:20 AM
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Manual=excuse for losing

"I missed a shift" "i ****ed the launch up" "i didnt feather the clutch" "i bogged the motor" "i missed 3rd" "i short shifted 2nd" etc, etc, etc
If you cant drive,and I do feel I can drive decently well. A good driver in a manual will not lose much if any ground in a shift. If they do, they are shifting slow. A full on fast powershift will not slow the car down at all. Maybe YOU guys like auto better, by for ME I wont own one... give me a stick and let me drive the car...

Auto = a way a not so good driver can win races, in my eyes (not talking 10 seconds and faster, even though you better believe I will have a 9-10 second stick car)!
Old Jan 15, 2004 | 08:21 AM
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25th bro, you always have to prove a point about something, you have to learn to just let it go sometimes!! To each his own, your getting nowhere because some like stick, and some like auto, so leave it alone and stop offending people in your own pathetic way. If you love your 5.0 mustang with a 5 speed in it, go tell someone who cares.
Old Jan 15, 2004 | 09:07 AM
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Calm down and keep on topic.

Autos are far more consistant in drag racing while manuals are a ton of fun to drive on the street and are ideal for road racing. A manual becomes a handicap in a Really fast car due to the speed of shifting required, that's why they have the individual gear buttons in the pro stocks.
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even though you better believe I will have a 9-10 second stick car)!
Same here!
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25th bro, you always have to prove a point about something, you have to learn to just let it go sometimes!! To each his own, your getting nowhere because some like stick, and some like auto, so leave it alone and stop offending people in your own pathetic way. If you love your 5.0 mustang with a 5 speed in it, go tell someone who cares.
Look who's talking this was a nice calm topic till you posted! 25th is just stateing his opinion (one that I happen to agree with, as I'll be swaping my TH 350 for a TKO soon). He's not offending anyone, your just working yourself up, calm down.
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I knew this was coming. This was the FIRST time I have ever posted anything like this!! I just read this guy's stuff all the time and he never agree's with anyone other than the other Mustang guy's on here. I am really a very calm person, I guess it just came out at the wrong time. I will leave this one alone because I don't need to get banned over something this stupid.
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I knew this was coming. This was the FIRST time I have ever posted anything like this!! I just read this guy's stuff all the time and he never agree's with anyone other than the other Mustang guy's on here. I am really a very calm person, I guess it just came out at the wrong time. I will leave this one alone because I don't need to get banned over something this stupid.
I think you're blowing this way out of proportion. Brian doesn't just agree with mustang guys he just supports his opinions and what he feels is right. As do I..What's wrong with that?
Old Jan 15, 2004 | 10:47 AM
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OK, don't worry about it, it's over!! I take back what I said, you guy's go on with your topic, and I will back off.
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Originally posted by 91wtROH17's
I knew this was coming. This was the FIRST time I have ever posted anything like this!! I just read this guy's stuff all the time and he never agree's with anyone other than the other Mustang guy's on here. I am really a very calm person, I guess it just came out at the wrong time. I will leave this one alone because I don't need to get banned over something this stupid.
They are always like this.
Old Jan 15, 2004 | 11:10 AM
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I think you're blowing this way out of proportion. Brian doesn't just agree with mustang guys he just supports his opinions and what he feels is right. As do I..What's wrong with that?
I think you need to reread this post. You both are being ridiculous. You cant come on a forum and claim that it takes no skill to drive an automatic without expecting to get a rise out of someone.
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Well if you knew it was coming why post it? I stated my opinion and backed it up when asked about. You came on and tried to make me look like a bad guy, by saying I am in some way trying to offend someone. I have my feelings about autos and manuals, I have had both in both the Mustangs I have owned, and I have my opinion on them now. If my opinion offends you, better get some tougher skin, or your not going to have a very fun time when the s**t talking starts!
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LOL, I noticed Unknown. People tell me to stay on topic, and they are not even on topic! This started out as 92z 350vs 94-95 5.0, and turned into a auto vs manual debate. I am not pointing any finger's, but who caused the turn around . 25th, you know your stuff for the most part and if it makes everyone feel better I appologize 25th. Ohh and trust me, I have tough skin, I just don't see the point in letting something like this go on too long.

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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 11:18 AM
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Well if you knew it was coming why post it? I stated my opinion and backed it up when asked about. You came on and tried to make me look like a bad guy, by saying I am in some way trying to offend someone. I have my feelings about autos and manuals, I have had both in both the Mustangs I have owned, and I have my opinion on them now. If my opinion offends you, better get some tougher skin, or your not going to have a very fun time when the s**t talking starts!
Lets take a look at your "constructive" comments in this thread:

Anyone can make an auto car fast, but it takes actual skill to make a stick car fast.
You say you own both, why wasnt your auto car fast if anybody can do it?

Also thank *** we got sticks. Autos suck, I would never race one, even if it was faster. Real Race cars have 3 pedals

Because unlike some I like to do all the work behind the wheel. Anyone can launch and race an auto, it takes true talent to race a stick car.
I clutch and shift, big difference, what I do takes skill and talent, what you do takes... an arm.

Sure they launch hard and whatnot, but I myself would rather have to clutch and shift than sit there and do nothing!

Auto = a way a not so good driver can win races
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