i was curious to see what everyone thought about this match up.i don't really race or go to look for a race but i have a friend that has a mustang 5.0 that thinks it will take my car easily.i was thinking about racing him but i was wanting to see what anyone thought the outcome might be.my mods i've done are in my sig. he hasn't done any mods on his mustang it's stock.i knows those mustangs have i think 225 hp stock.

 

It depends on his car. An 88 LX with 3.08 gears, and a stick could have potential to be very fast. If it is an 88 GT vert with 2.73s and an auto it is going to be a dog. I think the race will be close if he can drive and its a stick.

 

it is a stick.it's not an LX

 

How many miles are on both engines? My sister had an '88 GT (5 speed) that she bought new. I think they ran mid-high 14's stock. But most of those same cars (late 80's-'90) now have a ton of miles on them and won't run as quick. I bet it will be close if the engines are in comparable condition.

 

my engine has 90,000 miles on it..his has like 120,000 i think

 

you will win

 

Race him and find out! Let us know. Good luck!

 

i think you got it but it will be close good luck

 

even though it has nothing to do wit this... but i think the Mustangs in the 80's and early 90's were one of the most ugliest things ever... But anyways race his @$$ and let us know.

 

my friend has a modded '90 stick and he ran a 14.7 at the track a couple weeks ago. he lost to a primer gray thirdgen .

ps the thirdgen ran a 13.5

 

i think i'm going to try and set up a race with him friday night.so i guess i'll see what happens.i'll let you all know what happens after friday.

 

If he can shift really good I think he might have you but chances are hes not a perfect shifter. Should be a close race. I don't know much about heads but the exhaust + shift kit alone should bring you down to 16 flat.

 

when i bought the heads the guy to me they would give me about 20 to 30 hp.the car runs really good for what it is.i have a LT1 in my garage i'm putting it in probably this winter.i just wanna run this engine for the rest of the summer.dog it out some and take it out this winter.i'll race the guy and see what happens.i'll let everyone know after friday.thanks for the comments everyone

 

Stock TBI intake and peanut cam? You'll get drop kicked if he can drive at all I would think...

 

You a lot of nice mods. I don't see what motor you have though. Either way I think you have more than enough to beat a stock Stang, GT or LX.

 

I'm putting my money on the mustang, for obvious reason (check my sig). With even the SLIGHTEST bit of minor modifications, an 88-93 stick shift stang will pull deep into the 14's. Mine is a bone stock motor with just gears, pullies and exhaust and its tickling 13's. TPI thirdgens NEVER give me any competition in my stang so far, ask any of the various thirdgen guys I've raced from the southwest board here in Tucson If you are TBI, you are definitely going to get smoked. If you are TPI, you chances are better, but not really. If the mustang owner has done any of the easy free mods and tuning tricks, he should be in the 14's easy.

 

ah k I see from your profile that you have 305 TBI and an auto. That means peanut cam, a heavy car, and no top end. Get ready to see some tail lights.

 

I'm gonna go with the 'stang on this one.

 

This is true, but a LOT of Mustang owners cant drive. I belonged to a club a while back (that I dont belong to anymore and am very glad) which had a ton of 12 and 13 second Mustangs with 320-0420 rwhp and BAD drivers. Most Mustang owner unless drag racers cant drive from my experience! I will side with the Mustang but thats because I know what it can do!

 

I have a feeling your gonna see taillights to. I thought maybe you at least had a lb9. You have an lo3...You will lose.

 

to bad you were never in michigan ....my G92 LB9 with the only mods were a fartmaster muffler, K&N, the egr walls ground down and a good set of STREET tires (not DR)...cut a best of 1.95 60 and ran a 14.12@96...it trapped 94 with the factory orignal exhaust (leaked like a mmhmm) 12 year old factory dry rotted tires....not really a factory freak, but a "freak" driver =)


im alos going wiht the stang on this one...from personall experiance seeing what they can do =)

 

You have the makings for a really nice set up there but there are a few things holding you back still. If you are using the stock intake, cam and tbi unit thats gonna hurt you pretty bad. The other thing is that stage 2 chip...they are pretty much useless. Get into chip burning yourself and you'll see much better times.

 

the guy said he can't race tonight.he is suppose to call me saturday afternoon to let me know about saturday night.to answer some of the comments made......i think i've shaved off a little more than 1 tenth of a second with the mods i've done and i am aware how weak the LO3 is compared to all the other V8s.i've had many cars that would leave the car i have now sitting... no question about it.the car is a huge difference now then before i done all the mods.i'd say the car is in the 15 sec..somewhere.i know those mustangs run good and even better when they are modded.if he beats me i really don't think it will be by much.it's all in good fun it reallky doesn't matter if i win or not.i'll have my LT1 in soon then i'll be able to compete with the big boys.thanks for the comments everyone.

 

I've raced about three 5.0 automatic Mustangs with my 1995 Toyota Camry V6 Auto. Yes... a Camry. Stock vs stock, I always win, although not by much (usually a carlength or two).

I ran the Camry at the track once just for fun and it ran a 15.9 @ 88mph.

So in summary, if he has a 5-speed and he's a decent driver, I'd say he's somewhere in the realm of low 15's, possibly high 14's.

 

i had a friend last night tell me that he took it to the track a couple years ago and he was running mid 15s

 

i just got finished putting some magnum 1.6 roller tip rockers on that should give me a little more.the mustang guy didn't call me today about racing him tonight.i guess i'll try and get ahold of him.if i can make the race happen i'll let everyone know how it goes.i'm getting the feeling he might not be as confident as he was at first

 

hey i know this is off topic a bit but with my mods and ET could my LO3 take him????

 

I believe that. V6 Camrys are pretty ballsy anyways.
Probably the fastest front wheel drive car they made.
I work for Toyota. So I have driven a lot of Camrys. All I
can say is wow. It's like a sleeper! It's a friggin' grocery getter
mobile, but it's decent speed wise. And I can guarantee that if
you take a newer V6 Camry auto with very low miles, you can
see mid 15s.

The manual V6 Camrys are fun to drive. But they do not
make the V6 Camry with a manual anymore.

I think it will be a close race. But since the Mustang weights
less, it will be very close!

 

which car are you talking about dennis?i think with your et you should be able to take a stock mustang 5.0.you have some pretty good mods going on there.i have mostly the same type of mods that you do except the holley 670 but i have some nice heads and rockers.you have a better geared rear end then i do

 

I agree. Mostly cause I was the webmaster for a Camry Club for awhile, and I'm the webmaster of the Camry 1/4 Mile Database.

5-speed Camrys w/the TRD blower are pretty fun to drive. Wish mine was a 5-speed, but they didn't make 5-speeds for the V6's during 95 and 96 (grrrrrrrr).

 

Those are some sloooow Stangs! What year were they?? I know from '87-'93 or so they were rated around 225HP/300TQ (Mustang guys correct me if I'm wrong). The auto Stangs were quite a bit slower than the 5 speeds but damn, 15.9 and you beat them?!? I thought at least they ('87-93 autos) ran low-mid 15's. Anyway, I guess it depends on the condition of that particular car (and the driver!). There are a ton of '80's 5.0's, IROCS etc. that are beat to hell out there.

I was impressed by the 5.0LX 5 speeds '87-88 (I think) that ran very low 14's. There's even one in a magazine that ran 13.9 w/ a timing bump and a few other low buck mods. Someone here has the link I'm sure (25thmustang??). I'm a GM guy but I like those LX sleepers!!

 

I agree as my stocker auto was low 15s (besides being an LX it had all the worst racing options going for it).

As far as Mustangs, some have clipped 13s, some run 15s, driver is a HUGE deal (Id love to drive some of these 15 second ones) as well as condition, but a well kept bone stock 5.0 5-speed with a good driver should go 14.4 or so!

 

yes those years do have 225hp.as i said in my eariler post a friend told me that the guy with this 88 5.0 took it to the track and only ran mid 15s and it is a stick.as far as i know this guy can drive a stick pretty good.he's had the car since it was brand new in 88.he's taken pretty good care of it.it still looks in real good shape,maybe he wasn't running it hard when he took it to the track.

 

the race is on in about a hour i just talked to him.i'm gonna go meet him on some road alot of people go to race it's got a nice quarter mile stretch.i'll let everyone know what happens when i get back home later

 

its been an hour

 

wait nvm .......damn i gotta fix my clokc or stop drinkin

 

well i just got back.we both came off the line pretty close to even i pulled ahead a little bit and stayed there.i ended up beating him by about half to three fourth of a car length.he said he was surprised how good my car ran.it was a really close race i just edged him out.

 

The almighty 5.0 dropkicked by a TBI 305

Wish I would have been there to see that!

I can hear the "bad driver" excuses now. Anytime a 5.0 loses, especially to its F-body rival, its always due to "driver error" or a "missed shift".

And the fact that it was a speed density car with the manual trans is icing on the cake...

 

Good kill! Sounds like it was a driver's race. Your friend is one of the few Stang owners who drive a stock 5.0. It seems like all the Mustangs around here have something done to them.

BTW, I think back in the late 80's-90 the 5.0 LX (5 speed) and the IROC 5.7 were pretty evenly matched (ballpark - low-mid 14's I think).

 

i can count the number of times that someone set up a race with someone else and it actually happend on 1 hand...

good kill..way to show dem 5ohhs what an L03 can do lol...


about that bad driver excuse, im sick and friggin tired of that crap...when u race someone and they cant shift for **** BUT you still pull them when your in gear how can that be a bad driver lol....

i told my dad about when i raced a 95-96 6 spd LT1...i pulled his @ss to 100 mph...but of course he said it was a bad driver..i said
"WTF are you smoking??..when the guy shifts and the nose doesnt drop then pop back up he knows how to shift, and after shifting is over and im still pulling how can that be a bad driver?"...that was the end of the convo lol



GOOD kill!!!!

 

yes it was a drivers race.i'm sure he's going to tell other people excuses why he lost but it doesn't matter to me if he didn't shift right or not i still ended up beating him.i didn't blow him away it was damn close.he is one of the few around here that drives a stock mustang 5.0 also.there are some other ones around here that aren't stock that i wouldn't even try to mess with.alot of people like to dog on the third gens especially the ones with the LO3 so it was a very good kill.i think i'm going to go to the track next weekend to see what it runs.

 

Let us know what you run. Good luck!

 

A wins a win, thats why street racing dioesnt tell the whole story... There are a lot of bad drivers out there turning 15 second times in 13 and 14 second cars!

 

yes that is true street racing doesn't tell the whole story anything can happen in street racing.i'll post what i end up running at the track this coming weekend.i wasn't gonna run it at the track but after coming out on top last night i'm curious.

 

Good to hear an F Body beat another "Disgustang"!!!!

I CAN NOT STAND MUSTANGS!!! The crappest ride out there!
And I worked for Ford for 5 years! UGHHHHHHHH!

The Mustang may be 200-300 lbs lighter than my car.
Or even be capable of high 13s with free mods and
trick tuning, but they still look like crap, handle like crap
and ride like crap! That can not be changed, unless you
buy an F body. After working on Fords and going to
Ford school for 2 years, I can't believe how terrible
they build cars. Poor quality. Tons of recalls. LOTS of
pissed off customers!

 

Camaro_nut, don't be shy. Tell us how you really feel!

 

LOL, no kidding. I have yet to be depressed by build quality, handeling it does blow, but a good set of springs, and some suspension work and that can be cured (but why, LOL). The ride is nothing too bad, nothing worse then any Fbody I have been in, but oh well thats your opinion.

 

lol i'd say camaro nut doesn't like mustangs.i rode in a mustang 5.0 about 10 years ago but can't remember how it rode must not of been to bad or i'd remember it

 

Well, I feel fine, I guess? OH! You mean
about my feelings towards Mustangs and Fords in general?
He he he. DON'T get me started!!!! lol


Just kidding! I don't want to hurt any one who has
a Mustang. But from my experiences, Ford only makes
good rear ends, that's it. You may disagree on the build
quality or ride quality. But I have driven like 20 Mustangs.
A 1967, 1970, 1986,1988,1995, 1996, 1998, 2000. All
suck, except 1! The 1997 Cobra . The only one with any
nut and handling ( the most expensive one at that time!)
The handling was better because it had an upgraded
suspension package. I had replaced the 5 speed trans.
because the owner abused the hell out of it. I even saw
a timeslip from NE Dragway in the car when I was taking
apart the center console. It did 14.3. Not bad for $28,000
back in 1997! LOL!

 

I have nothing against mustangs. I like them.

In my area noone does them right. Its usually skanks and they cut their tailpipes off and add a k&n and talk crap.

If I had it to do over again I would have bought a fox body instead of my camaro...