raced a thirdgen.... good race almost had him
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raced a thirdgen.... good race almost had him
was sitting there ata light kinda bored just flicking the rpms up and down a little and this thirdgen camaro pulls up next to me kinda sounding a little sick with it's sputter type idle sounded like it was bouncing around a little
I felt sad that someone wouldn't take care of the car a little better then that so it doesn't just sound like it has a big miss
he heard me kinda bouncind the idle a little and gave a little rev back
I heard this little whine and again I became sad the guy can't take care of his car worth a damn at all even make noises like it is whining for help from it's abusive owner
and then the hood... the hood was chopped up to put one of those I'm fast look at me cowl things
so I just sat there wanting to cry for this car feeling it's pain and suffering
but to humor the guy I reved back
so I just sat there holding it at 3500rpms when the light turned green I spun a little looked to my right and didn't see him
looked in front of me and noticed he was pulling like crazy
holy monkey farts just wonder what a car like that would run if the owner actually took care of the thing and got rid of the miss at the idle and put the real hood back on and got rid of that cry the motor makes
I feel sorry for that car still to this day
I felt sad that someone wouldn't take care of the car a little better then that so it doesn't just sound like it has a big miss
he heard me kinda bouncind the idle a little and gave a little rev back
I heard this little whine and again I became sad the guy can't take care of his car worth a damn at all even make noises like it is whining for help from it's abusive owner
and then the hood... the hood was chopped up to put one of those I'm fast look at me cowl things
so I just sat there wanting to cry for this car feeling it's pain and suffering
but to humor the guy I reved back
so I just sat there holding it at 3500rpms when the light turned green I spun a little looked to my right and didn't see him
looked in front of me and noticed he was pulling like crazy
holy monkey farts just wonder what a car like that would run if the owner actually took care of the thing and got rid of the miss at the idle and put the real hood back on and got rid of that cry the motor makes
I feel sorry for that car still to this day
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Crying shame you had to go up against one that was all clapped out. Awhile back, I had some hellacious engine knock (bad fuel) and I avoided any sort of provacative displays of power. Funny, the r!cers seemed to want to mess with me when my engien sounded terrible, too. I didn't oblige them at all - the car is sick, don't break it, y'know? I felt bad for even driving it like that, but hey, burn off the bad fuel and it was all good with a fresh tank of premium!
However, I see that a lot here with some r!cers. One dude had a turbo on his CRX, it was waaaay too big because it took him awhile for any discernable boost to kick his car forward, and when it did finally kick in, big clouds of bluish smoke was shooting out of his sewerpipe exhaust. I got side-by-side with him at a light, and not wanting to be confrontational, I simply asked him how many pounds of boost he was shoving into his poor tortured engine. "Ten pounds, dude!" Right. What sort of terrible things he had done to the internals I couldn't even guess, but he didn't rev at me at least. Maybe he thought I was too chicken to race his oil-burning car with ten (TEN!) pounds of boost. No, just more mature.
However, I see that a lot here with some r!cers. One dude had a turbo on his CRX, it was waaaay too big because it took him awhile for any discernable boost to kick his car forward, and when it did finally kick in, big clouds of bluish smoke was shooting out of his sewerpipe exhaust. I got side-by-side with him at a light, and not wanting to be confrontational, I simply asked him how many pounds of boost he was shoving into his poor tortured engine. "Ten pounds, dude!" Right. What sort of terrible things he had done to the internals I couldn't even guess, but he didn't rev at me at least. Maybe he thought I was too chicken to race his oil-burning car with ten (TEN!) pounds of boost. No, just more mature.
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Originally posted by Marc 85Z28
pvt num 11 - Did we not detect the sarcasm? There was nothing wrong with the Camaro
pvt num 11 - Did we not detect the sarcasm? There was nothing wrong with the Camaro
bull that thing sounded like crap
whats up with these older cars running all rough and such
modern tech nice smooth idle lots of power
these older cars none of them run right
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big lift cams and cowl hoods rock sir look ive got one with a big cam and cowl hood and one with a "one of those I'm fast look at me cowl things" as you like to say lol
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Big Cowl Big Cam True Dual "BCBCTD" wana join the club?
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havent seen u here in awhile whoreboy whereve u been.
anyway
are you trying to make fun of me. look at my sig. it has a big hood and a big cam and a big ******
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are you trying to make fun of me. look at my sig. it has a big hood and a big cam and a big ******
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teal 91 rs, can i join the club too???
EDIT: you can't really see the cowl hood but its there
EDIT: you can't really see the cowl hood but its there
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hopefully you can see the dual mufflers in this pic
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oh yeah boys and girls just wanted to say mr wankel is back
8 hours a day I get to sit here and preach the wisdom of the wankle
if any of you wish to learn the art of the wankle or play with a wankle let me I know and I can find you all the info you need about the wankle or even my wankle and can even help you find your own wankle
but yeah the car was bad ***
nice sounding as hell
have been running into a few too many nice cars in the area it's making me sad that my tranny is about to go
think the bearings are shot being it is starting to make high pitched whine in first and second and kinda hear tinking noises at about 55-65mph or so
but eh wanted a new tranny anyway ONCE AGAIN!!!!!
but once all fixed up I know a few thirdgens in the area I want to kick my butt
8 hours a day I get to sit here and preach the wisdom of the wankle
if any of you wish to learn the art of the wankle or play with a wankle let me I know and I can find you all the info you need about the wankle or even my wankle and can even help you find your own wankle
but yeah the car was bad ***
nice sounding as hell
have been running into a few too many nice cars in the area it's making me sad that my tranny is about to go
think the bearings are shot being it is starting to make high pitched whine in first and second and kinda hear tinking noises at about 55-65mph or so
but eh wanted a new tranny anyway ONCE AGAIN!!!!!
but once all fixed up I know a few thirdgens in the area I want to kick my butt
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oh yeah boys and girls just wanted to say mr wankel is back
8 hours a day I get to sit here and preach the wisdom of the wankle
oh yeah boys and girls just wanted to say mr wankel is back
8 hours a day I get to sit here and preach the wisdom of the wankle
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Re: raced a thirdgen.... good race almost had him
Originally posted by rx7speed
was sitting there ata light kinda bored just flicking the rpms up and down a little and this thirdgen camaro pulls up next to me kinda sounding a little sick with it's sputter type idle sounded like it was bouncing around a little
I felt sad that someone wouldn't take care of the car a little better then that so it doesn't just sound like it has a big miss
he heard me kinda bouncind the idle a little and gave a little rev back
I heard this little whine and again I became sad the guy can't take care of his car worth a damn at all even make noises like it is whining for help from it's abusive owner
and then the hood... the hood was chopped up to put one of those I'm fast look at me cowl things
so I just sat there wanting to cry for this car feeling it's pain and suffering
but to humor the guy I reved back
so I just sat there holding it at 3500rpms when the light turned green I spun a little looked to my right and didn't see him
looked in front of me and noticed he was pulling like crazy
holy monkey farts just wonder what a car like that would run if the owner actually took care of the thing and got rid of the miss at the idle and put the real hood back on and got rid of that cry the motor makes
I feel sorry for that car still to this day
was sitting there ata light kinda bored just flicking the rpms up and down a little and this thirdgen camaro pulls up next to me kinda sounding a little sick with it's sputter type idle sounded like it was bouncing around a little
I felt sad that someone wouldn't take care of the car a little better then that so it doesn't just sound like it has a big miss
he heard me kinda bouncind the idle a little and gave a little rev back
I heard this little whine and again I became sad the guy can't take care of his car worth a damn at all even make noises like it is whining for help from it's abusive owner
and then the hood... the hood was chopped up to put one of those I'm fast look at me cowl things
so I just sat there wanting to cry for this car feeling it's pain and suffering
but to humor the guy I reved back
so I just sat there holding it at 3500rpms when the light turned green I spun a little looked to my right and didn't see him
looked in front of me and noticed he was pulling like crazy
holy monkey farts just wonder what a car like that would run if the owner actually took care of the thing and got rid of the miss at the idle and put the real hood back on and got rid of that cry the motor makes
I feel sorry for that car still to this day
.Just messin with ya, you never know, sometimes people throw in some nice engines in junk cars because they can't afford the car they wanna put it in yet.
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Originally posted by Z28guy83
i got a question for you why do built rotaries sound like lawn mowers ????
and yes im a big cam/cowl hood owner :lala:
i got a question for you why do built rotaries sound like lawn mowers ????
and yes im a big cam/cowl hood owner :lala:
It's the same reason most imports sound the same, they're all around 1.8L.
Originally posted by Z28guy83
i got a question for you why do built rotaries sound like lawn mowers ????
i got a question for you why do built rotaries sound like lawn mowers ????
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Listen to this N/A 4 rotor!!
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part of the reason for their sound has to do with the exhuast ports
unlike you piston cars where you have valves to go through and a bend in the head from when it goes up out of the cylinder then hooks out to go into the exhuast manifold the rotary exhuast gasses go STRAIGHT OUT the exhuast port with no valve or anything like that to help change the sound on them
also I'm sure a few other things like the intake and rotating combustion chamber have a bit to do with it but the biggest I'm sure is the exhuast port setup
that and the exhuast port doesn't really every REALLY close in a way
unlike you piston cars where you have valves to go through and a bend in the head from when it goes up out of the cylinder then hooks out to go into the exhuast manifold the rotary exhuast gasses go STRAIGHT OUT the exhuast port with no valve or anything like that to help change the sound on them
also I'm sure a few other things like the intake and rotating combustion chamber have a bit to do with it but the biggest I'm sure is the exhuast port setup
that and the exhuast port doesn't really every REALLY close in a way
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not really
my redline on the car is only 7k
now there are quite a few push rods that run 7k
now the car I am looking at buying is 8k redline
but even at lower rpms it has a different note or at idle a different note
my redline on the car is only 7k
now there are quite a few push rods that run 7k
now the car I am looking at buying is 8k redline
but even at lower rpms it has a different note or at idle a different note
Originally posted by GTAPETE
do the turbocharged rotary engines have a higher redline? i thought they were at like 10k?
do the turbocharged rotary engines have a higher redline? i thought they were at like 10k?
rx7speed - Name just 1 modern production pushrod engine that is capable of 7000rpm continuous use. Other than the LS2, which isn't even out yet, I can't.
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Originally posted by Marc 85Z28
Not much higher than the older N/A versions. However, the new N/A "Renesis" rotary redlines over 9000rpm. The engine itself can rev almost forever. Some tests have shown in excess of 21,000rpm!!! The limiting factors though are primarily the weak factory ignition in the older cars, which limits high rpm power, and the inability of the accessories to spin that high.
rx7speed - Name just 1 modern production pushrod engine that is capable of 7000rpm continuous use. Other than the LS2, which isn't even out yet, I can't.
Not much higher than the older N/A versions. However, the new N/A "Renesis" rotary redlines over 9000rpm. The engine itself can rev almost forever. Some tests have shown in excess of 21,000rpm!!! The limiting factors though are primarily the weak factory ignition in the older cars, which limits high rpm power, and the inability of the accessories to spin that high.
rx7speed - Name just 1 modern production pushrod engine that is capable of 7000rpm continuous use. Other than the LS2, which isn't even out yet, I can't.
I'll be honest and say I can' recall any off the top of my head for factory
but know some are not that far off
isn't the LS1 around 600-6500 already?
but as far as the stock rotary
don't know about the renesis but a stocvk second/third and first gen rx7 21.000 is a little much
generally before that time your eshaft (crankshaft for you boinger folk) would have flexed and caused the rotors to hit the housings and break the apex seals if your eshaft doesn't just flex
then you have stationary gears that prolly would haev been damaged by that point as well and many other problems that could ocome about
nice little problem is the support of the e shaft
there is no middle support
it would be like your piston motor only supported on the outer edges and not in the middel
you can see the problem with that
but there is a rotary style motor where the housings spin around stationary rotors which does have the 20,000 redline like you are talking about but it would be a pain
want to change spark plugs
time to take the motor out
and sorry if the typing is bad I wait about 20 seconds before I can see what I really typed out and it really is a pain
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