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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 11:14 PM
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Nearly lost to a Mini Cooper wth?

What in the world? I was driving to the grocery store, and a minicooper starts bobbin in and out of traffic behind me, (all clear ahead of me) I see him coming and he slows down to my fender and gives me a few revs...it sounded turboed....I gave 3 honks...and punched it...(40mph no downshift) he took me slowly by a car and I had him by maybe a car length at 90...I have never heard of any mods for mini coopers that can make them run like that!

I let off at 100 and he did to....gave me the thumbs up and pulled off into a ramp, I watched the car and noticed he had a all black paint job, 3inch exhaust, crossed drilled front rotors, black rims, black painjob...I think I might have seen a gauge pillar, but not for sure...

anyone got a clue? sure would have liked to see what he was running....
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 12:03 AM
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 02:40 AM
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There's some guys out there running turbo setups on their Mini's. With a turbo 230-260hp is obtainable and in a 2500lb car, it can be pretty quick.
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 05:58 AM
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The highest trim level mini is super charged. Maybe it was one of those? Cooper "S" I think?
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 08:15 AM
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Originally posted by nidyanazo
The highest trim level mini is super charged. Maybe it was one of those? Cooper "S" I think?
This is what I was thinking. He must have serious work with the boost turned up. They are quick cars but his must fly it if hung with /\/3\/\/l8l3's set-up.
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 08:40 AM
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 10:20 AM
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 11:15 AM
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Ya the Mini Cooper S comes with a supercharged 4 banger, Theres an aftermarket kit you can get for it that they call a "twin charger kit". It basically adds a turbo to the supercharged setup to get more boost.
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 11:42 AM
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Something doesn't add up here......

You said in a previous post that you killed a SRT-10, and proceeded to list off what sounds like a wicked combo under the hood. I don't see how even a modded Mini - S is going to run with you.

We're you driving a different car?
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 11:58 AM
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Anything can happen on the street. He also said he didn't downshift so who knows what he was lugging at when he took off.
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 03:20 PM
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Mini Cooper S can run mid/low 15s stock.
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 05:43 PM
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Originally posted by ShiftyCapone
This is what I was thinking. He must have serious work with the boost turned up. They are quick cars but his must fly it if hung with /\/3\/\/l8l3's set-up.
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 06:08 PM
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Mini Coopers also weigh less than an SRT-10. I'm sure upped boost and better exhaust would do something for a small car like that. As Inwo said, anything can happen on the street.

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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 06:10 PM
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mmmmm :drool: srt-10 motor in an orignal mini cooper NOT the mini's they are producing anymore
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 06:42 PM
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Originally posted by Inwo
Anything can happen on the street.
I won't argue that for a second.

I saw that he didn't downshift, but punched it. That means either he has a full manual valve body (not mentioned in the previous post), was already in a lower gear, or has a problem with his 700r4 - I'm guessing full manual valve body. I suspect a downshift would have made quick work of the Mini.
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 06:48 PM
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Originally posted by bubba353z
Something doesn't add up here......

You said in a previous post that you killed a SRT-10, and proceeded to list off what sounds like a wicked combo under the hood. I don't see how even a modded Mini - S is going to run with you.
This is why I am asking if anyone knows what he could possibly have under the hood?
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 06:50 PM
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bah i can't edit since i'm on probby

I did some research on the net and didn't find anything that could helpful...I can only think of a motor swap with a turbo...but that is a little extreme for a new mini...
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 07:08 PM
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There is a John Cooper upgrade package, good for about 200hp (total). I suspect you ran across something much stronger than that.

Since it's relatively easy to build a 400hp Honda (didn't say anything about it being cheap), it's entirely possible that you ran into a similarly built Mini.

What gear were you running in?
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 10:42 PM
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Origonally posted by 86transamws6 Ya the Mini Cooper S comes with a supercharged 4 banger, Theres an aftermarket kit you can get for it that they call a "twin charger kit". It basically adds a turbo to the supercharged setup to get more boost.
Origonally posted by /\/3\/\/l8l3 bah i can't edit since i'm on probby
I did some research on the net and didn't find anything that could helpful...I can only think of a motor swap with a turbo...but that is a little extreme for a new mini...

Why would you need a motor swap and a turbo? I already said that they have a turbo kit for the supercharged model.
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 12:11 AM
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In your post about killing the SRT-10 Ram truck you mention your car as

Tuned and dialed 566 hp / 488 ft lbs at 5400rpm
While I can see that beating the truck (he has the aerodynamics of a brick) but I just don't see a Mini taking you, especially from a roll. Car&Driver tested a Mini S against the PT Cruiser GT Turbo and the New Beetle Turbo S. The Mini fell in the middle in both 0-60 and 1/4 mile times (15.8 1/4) while the PT was fastest in both runs (15.7 1/4 with an automatic). They specifically stated that at freeway speeds (and I know you guys hit it from a bit slower speed) that the Mini needed so much shifting it had no hope of keeping up with the PT.

Now, I've got a PT Turbo with the Stage 1 upgrade plus a few other bits and it's run a 14.55 @ 95 without the help of a boost controller. KiLLJ0Y says he was at California Speedway back in November 04.....he would have seen me make that pass! In any event, I can kill a Mini S nine ways to Sunday but I wouldn't stand a snowballs chance in heck of taking you! I've never seen anybody do to a Mini what it would take to do what that one did. There are plenty of SRT-4 Neons running 26lbs of boost and around 500HP, but a Mini????? Did you drop your cell phone and it slipped under your gas pedal?
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 12:16 AM
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Originally posted by Mike-in-Orange
In your post about killing the SRT-10 Ram truck you mention your car as

While I can see that beating the truck (he has the aerodynamics of a brick) but I just don't see a Mini taking you, especially from a roll. Car&Driver tested a Mini S against the PT Cruiser GT Turbo and the New Beetle Turbo S. The Mini fell in the middle in both 0-60 and 1/4 mile times (15.8 1/4) while the PT was fastest in both runs (15.7 1/4 with an automatic). They specifically stated that at freeway speeds (and I know you guys hit it from a bit slower speed) that the Mini needed so much shifting it had no hope of keeping up with the PT.

Now, I've got a PT Turbo with the Stage 1 upgrade plus a few other bits and it's run a 14.55 @ 95 without the help of a boost controller. KiLLJ0Y says he was at California Speedway back in November 04.....he would have seen me make that pass! In any event, I can kill a Mini S nine ways to Sunday but I wouldn't stand a snowballs chance in heck of taking you! I've never seen anybody do to a Mini what it would take to do what that one did. There are plenty of SRT-4 Neons running 26lbs of boost and around 500HP, but a Mini????? Did you drop your cell phone and it slipped under your gas pedal?
I wish I could explain it honestly...that mini had some secret I may never find the answer to...one thing is for sure...I don't have many people able to take a piece of me on the street, and I think if I went anymore radical with my setup it wouldn't be streetable...as far as that mini goes I'm dying to find out what was under the hood...maybe I will cross the guy one day and finally figure it out.
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 05:39 PM
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I used to race agains tthe original minis back in the sporty-car days, they were rockets for little turdhoppers. The new ones with the "S" badges have a blower, I see them at autocrosses and they haul butt. The biggets problem with them is that most come w/o a posi. Keep in mind our cars are 20 years old, they were greta back when a 350 was only good for 150HP, but those days are long gone.
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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 11:08 AM
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If you're STILL in denial and won't listen, then heres an exact quote from the March 05 issue of Turbo magazine. page 90 it's a write up about the new products at the 2004 SEMA show. "SPI Power Excel invites Mini Cooper S owners to twin-charge their roller skate with its SPI TwinCharger kit. The kit adds a Garrett T28R turbo to the factory roots blower. This compound forced induction strategy results in 265 WHP and 352 LB-FT of torque. Contact SPI Power Excel at (877) SHOP-SPI or WWW.SPIPOWEREXCEL.COM"

THATS how...
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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 11:50 AM
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Originally posted by Mike-in-Orange
Did you drop your cell phone and it slipped under your gas pedal?
I agree. With 566hp you should be able to boil your tires from a 40mph roll. Maybe you lost traction? Something just isn't right here. I only had close to 400rwhp in my IROC and at 40mph the car would go sideways at WOT.

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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 01:49 PM
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shoot at 60 mph if I downshift and get deep in the powerband I start drifting right.
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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 02:17 PM
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i, well my dad, actualy has a mini cooper and i really have a hard time beliving this. while his is only stock i cant belive that even a turbo one can run with that setup. some people are compairing them to srt-4s but the mini is only a 1.6L to the neons 2.4L. i guess all i really know is i would never race one in a road course. even my dads base model suposedly has a slalom time close to that of c5s and some porsches. defenatly a fun car but not wickedly fast in a strait line
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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 05:08 PM
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Everyone on this board has said at least once "You can make anything fast," but when someone comes on here with a story about something being unexpectedly fast, no one can swallow the story. What's the problem here?
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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 10:49 AM
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well said STU
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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 11:29 AM
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...free flow exhaust, a better intercooler and upped boost (new pully) on the blower, and a big ugly shot of nitrous.

Also, the Cooper S in stock form is seriously hampered by a massive, heavy wheel and tire combination. There is no room for a spare, so the factory delivers them with run-flat tires and wheels. 42 lbs per corner. My friend just swapped off his stock tires and rims to lightweight "tuner" stuff that weighs half as much per corner, and the car is APPRECIBLY quicker all around. Those cars are so light, small increases in power make significant differences, so a major increase in power makes a huge difference.

You can make anything fast if you throw enough time and money at it.
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