Well coming out of andy's going to my g/f's work this past weekend, i was sitting at the exit getting ready to go out. First came a pack of cars that passed then this little red car zooming up behind them. After him, it was clear so i stepped on it to try and catch up to the red car. He got slowed down by the pack of cars so i did. He weaved around the cars and i followed. Then we were open, i switched lanes,dropped it into drive, gradually pulled up beside him, he stepped on it then i did already going about 45. I jumped out to about half a car. What made this hard for both of us is that the road was curving hard. It took both of my hands to hold my car in my lane. He was on the outside of the curve about 2-3 feet from me. I kept inching my half car lead further all the way to 80 where he shut down and so did i. I switched over and got in his lane in front of him cuz i need to turn at the light. He got in the other and as he passed gave me a wave and i gave him a thumbs up. My hands were even shaking after this race.

I was hoping to ask what he had in the car at the light but it was green. I kno nothing about the car cept it said jetta GLI on the back and had european tags (my town has a base). From waht i could tell, it was lowered, sitting on freshly painted black hubs, two round headlights on eachside of the front, and had an exhaust but not a fart can. But i know it was quiiick, suprised the hell out of me.

Does anybody know anything about these cars? What would it have to have to keep up with my GTA (stock except echaust)? Hopefully i'll find him one day and ask him

 

Nice run. I have no idea what a Jetta GL1 is but it must have had some serious work done to it to be that fast.

 

GLI, and I'm sure it was turbo. Probably just chipped and had an exhaust.

 

Yes it was turbo'd too, forgot to mention. I heard it screaming when he stepped on it.

 

Congratulations, you just overtook a 2.0 4 cylinder turbo diesel

 

one that weighs like 3 pounds. its all about power to weight just not engine size

 

J/K. But ya those little VW can be modded to giddy up and go on the highway. Some of them used to give my little 305 tpi a good run.

 

yea i was suprised. im used to seeing VWs through my back window, not my side window.

Honestly i would have felt bad if we talked and he named all his turbo and stuff and i would have said "well mines just stock." That would even break my heart if i was the VW guy.

 

No worries, he was modded pretty well. I'm certain.

 

Had to be. The ppl that live on base here have way too much time and money apparently. That have some pretty slick rides.

 

Jettas can be made decently fast, but turbo Hondas are still usually faster. I've seen dyno charts for TDI cars with around 400 ft/lbs of torque on the stock turbo. Jettas aren't exactly light by the way; kind of piggish.

How fast is your car by the way?

 

Not as fast as i want it to be


Nah, ive never gotten around to putting it on the track yet. Its a stock L98 w/ just exhaust, no headers. But it has been tuned recently and that helped a lot.

 

I'd guess about a 14.3-.4. GTAs were heavy, and usually the slowest of all the L98 cars for that reason, along with their intake not being as efficient as the camaro version. I've seen many run mid-high 14s stock.

I'm willing to bet that VW was highly modded.

 

It only runs 14's? I bet that VW has a chip, an exhaust, and that's it. I don't understand why you guys have such a hard time understanding how easy it is to make a factory turbo car fast.

A highly modded turbo Jetta would run 12's, not high 14's. All it takes to run mid 14's is a boost controller (or chip).

 

Pretty much. I didnt say it was hard, i dont know much about turbos period. I was just suprised it was that quick.

But yea hopefully i'll be out of those 14s very soon. Im done with school in january and i'll be living at home with no bills to pay, not even car insurance and gas money. So my car will be getting almost all my money. Upgrades that are on the list are CAI, heads, cam, HSR, headers, NOS, stall, and maybe some gears.

Stu, any ideas on what order i should get those in or any other things i should look at? Idk if it'll be a daily driver or not by that time. hopefully not.

 

I have NO idea what order you'd want to get them, I'd be the LAST person on here to ask.

If I had to guess though, I'd say to do the breathing mods first (CAI, Headers), then the internal stuff (heads, cam), then stall and gears, if that's not enough for you, I'd get the NOS.

Well, I'd just throw away your whole plan and go forced induction, but that's just me.

 

oh ok.

well forced induction would be good and i know with as much as im gonna spend on that stuff, i could buy a sc. But im impatient and dont wanna take up the time to save all that money. But maybe i will do all the breathing, internals, then forced induction.

Edit: These mods might be happening on my brand new scooter if gas prices dont go down or we even have gas. $4 a gallon here at midnight but most of the gas stations are already closed down

 

CAI, headers (long tubes if you can, otherwise Hooker 2055s are great shorty headers), gears (at least 3.73s, consider 4.10s if you can stand the gas mileage), stall (at least 2800 WITH TRANNY COOLER), HSR, heads/cam, Nitrous (look into ZEX kits). Going in that order, each mod will complement the other I'd recommend a new chip after the HSR, then reburning a new one on the dyno after the heads/cam. If you want to use nitrous, buy a nitrous friendly cam and all the N20 safety accessories, then retune it for nitrous use.

I'd also recommend getting some subframe connectors, and consider re-doing your springs/shocks, as they're probably worn out.

With factory turbo cars it's either hit or miss it seems, I don't know anything about the GLIs so thanks for clarifying stu. I know some of those cars you can do $50 to and get a second faster, others you have to put a few K into.

 

Some of you guys are ****ing morons. I own a RS AND a GLI.

GLI is a horrible drag race car, but it would own the hell out of you around the track.

1.8L 20V Turbo rated at 180hp stock. They dyno at 165-170hp to the wheels. Mine is close to 200.
6-speed Transmission (Same as a Audi TT and R32 cept its not AWD)
Springs are made by Eibach, shocks are VW Performance
18" BBS wheels with Goodyear Eagle F1's.
Recaro seats (They are awesome)

Granted, a friend of mine has one with 500 wheel horsepower.

You want high 14's on a 1.8T VW? Chip and do a exhaust. Its cheaper and easier for me to get 13's with my GLI than it was for my camaro.

I swear, some of you are white-trash, ****** haired, coors light drinking morons.

 

Wow.....alittle pent up animosity? Boy did you come from left field, are you feeling insecure about your car or something? Nobody trash talked Jetta aside from a honest story about this guys camaro beating one on the street. Its not like we insulted your mother..... Chill out.

 

Oh?

1. There is no such thing as a 2.0 Turbo Diesel. The TDI's are 1.9L, the 2.0 is a NA economy engine, and the 1.8L is the turbo gas engine. Wrong on every part. Just a absolute ignorent comment.

2. Named all his turbo stuff? Sweetheart, if he changed the turbo, you would need more than a stock L98 to walk one. The most common mods are Chip, Exhaust and CAI. That will get you to 200whp. Well enough to stay next to a L98 for about $1700 in mods. The Exhaust is about $1000 for a 2.5" exhaust with all the options. Its also stainless steel.

3. Pretty modded is 300whp from a swapped turbo.

I dont want to sound like a import fanboy that just signed up to defend my car. I have been a member here for a long time with my RS and I love both of my cars. It just annoys me to see ignorent comments from gritboys who think for a import to beat a 3rd gen it has to have $10k worth of engine work to beat a stock L98.

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Oh yeah, forgot to mention......There is no such thing as a Green GLI. It was a rebadged base model.

 

Thats fine to correct the ignorance about jettas, The comments about whitetrash and the other insults is just plain sophomoric. If you wish to argue about jettas, it will make you seem alot more intellegent and mature if you refrain from the silly insults. This is not a jetta board so people are not the most knowlegable about them. If you are familiar with Jettas then please share your knowlege without attempting to belittle people.

 

The reason I am insulting people is due to the unneeded ignorent arrogance that festers in this particular forum. (Street racing)

I have seen COUNTLESS threads where the basic sentiment is "Omg my thirdgen rules and all imports suk lolololomg" I've been sick of it for months. I know stu for one is annoyed by it and has been making mention of it for months. This to me was the final nail I needed to finally voice my frustration with as I've mentioned before, the unneeded ignorent arrogance.

 

I guess you do have animosity then, Personally, I thought this perticular thread was rather light in the aspect that you mention. Yes ignorance can be rampent here, but I have lurked on import boards too and that ignorance is just as present. No need to throw a temper tantrum about it, just correct the ignorance when you see it said and do it in a civil manner. You may find that your arguments are then taken more seriously.

 

"Absolute ignorant comment"? The only GOOF here is you with your pathetic attitude. If you haven't checked this is a "thirdgen" site and nobody claimed to be experts on VW. Hold on let me pull out my VW GLI owner's manual? What?! I don't have one?! The "2.0" was a general comment as I don't actually own a turbo diesel but they are available with turbo's and a difference in 0.1 engine size doesn't warrant you spoutting off at the mouth and throwing derogatory statements at everyone in here. It's not like I said it was running a 3.5 or 3.8. Check your head pal. You should go back to the VW forum where you came from you cockaroach!

 

Hey, I've been on this board longer and I have more posts. Go pick out some new concrete blocks for your trailer. :q:

 

And your complaining about ignorant comments?

Pot.....meet Kettle.

 

Lets review.

I didnt say all his turbo stuff, i said all his turbo AND stuff. I said "all" because idk how many mods he has.

I didnt say it was a green GLI, i said it was a green LIGHT that we came up to.

I never once said i was superior over all imports. I know some that i wouldnt even try.

A lot of this would have been solved if u would have read a little bit better.

I was the first to say i didnt know crap about a jetta, and never pretended i did.

And you can quit witht the 3rd grade statements. You're the only one sounding like u come from a trailer. Dont take it seriously.

 

Well, the "Go back where you came from" remark was kinda funny in that I have been here longer than him. This IS where I came from.

 

Noone found it funny but you. Wow you've been here 2 whole years. That means nothing.

 

I misinterpreted that part.

Most of my post was directed at that freestyles gritboy jackass. Your portion of that post I quoted made it sound like he had a upgraded turbo and you still beat him with a stock L98. Which from owning both, I can tell you it wouldnt happen.

 

3 years smarty pants. Welcome to Sept of 2005.

 

It clearly says "and stuff"


Directed only to him, thats why everything you said was plural.

 

It hasnt been 3 whole years yet. 2 years and something.

Welcome to 6th grade math.

 

Feb 2002 0
Feb 2003 1 year
Feb 2004 2 years
Feb 2005 3 years
Sept 2005 is ~8 months.

3 years, and about 8 months. Welcome to 3rd grade.

 

my bad sweetheart. Dont get your panties in a bunch. Clearly my math skills are about like your reading skills.

But i do no one equationnnnnnnn.

my stock gta + a modded gli = a win for my gta.

Gotta suck for the GLI owners huh?


This is a pointless thread tho, i'll go waist time somewhere else.

 

Didnt I say they were a horrible drag car? I thought I did.

Here is a simple one for you too since you want to make it a pissing contest.

My L98 > Your L98. Without my spray I can probably beat you by .4 in the quarter.

 

Do people ever tell you you have bad breath? Anyways, if you have a problem just pm me and we can discuss this. You're simply making this thread foul smelling.

 

*Notices youre a canuck*

Nevermind.....

 

We were going around curves so not exactly drag.

But money can make anything go fast. Its just funny when another car spends money to make his fast and u dont, but u still when.

See, yours doesnt fall into that category.

 

Just for ****s and giggles (Trying to get this back on track) how did you know he was modded? Might have just had a chip. On these cars, a chip is damn near factory in the aspect that almost everyone has them. Chips cost $500 and give you another 20-30whp and 50lb-ft of torque. Makes them pretty strong little buggers.

 

A chip is a mod.

Almost everyone on this board has a new exhaust but that doesnt mean it isnt a mod.


Therefore, he was modded if he had a chip.

 

Man! it gett'in hot in here!
UMMM...
Nice kill
Is it too late to say that?

 

My problem is people thinking that "it must have had a ton of work done to it," just to beat some mediocore performer, seriously.

 

Thats y i asked how many mods would he have to have. I was told he had to have a lot, so thats what i thought.

But thanks to vwdave, i now know it doesnt have to be.

 

Well, at least we're somewhat cool now.

BTW, what color was the car?

 

yes. even tho we could have both been way mature. but when guys talk about other ppl's cars, their gonna get immature.


It was red. I actually saw it today leaving my girlfriends house at the front of the neighborhood, i think at one of his friend's house. I was lookin to see if he was outside so i could ask him about it, but he wasnt.

 

Lol this thread kind of blew up.

What are your specs?

EDIT:

Just thought I should point out that a good running L98 camaro can be gotten into the 13s solidly for about $400.

And if it can't be, you suck at driving.