Ill start from the begining I have already raced a civic for fun and beat him. Today we got out of school early and i saw the same civic in the parking lot with a crotch rocket and a primered civic and a primered integra with him. So i was just playing around and reved at him, he started to yell at me to race for money. Well i got an LO3 with just a 3'' Flowmaster catback. I told him my cars to slow and I drove off. I dropped my friend off at his house and went to go get gas. All the r!icers were at the same gas station. I saw them inside and they kept telling me to race for money a told them i ran very high 15's on my best day. they said that their cars were bone stock, but why would they only race for money if they were stock. We left the station at the same time and we all peeled out but they smoked me. What would yall have done?

 

told them to go f themselves and when they started **** cracked their skulls with my ball bat

 

Why would I borrow your bat? I keep a couple in my car at ALL times mainly use then for baseball though.

 

You should ask them to race you at the track and the winner pays track fees. That way there is proof in the form of a timeslip. Never race for money on the street. Never race on the street in an organized manor. You did the right thing.

 

You did the right thing. They sounds like they were trying to shark you. They don,t even sound like competent sharks. They should work on their act if they want to pick any-bodies pocket.

 

I'm still voting for flipping them the bird and when they chase you down bust their *****

 

How much money are you talking about? 5 bucks= sure what the hell it is only 5 buck. $50= no way with the lo3.

 

We left the station at the same time and we all peeled out but they smoked me. What would yall have done?

If they smoke you then its a good thing you didn't race him right? I figure if they have civics and are eager to race for money then yeah you did the right thing. Don't fall for those setups your just giving your money away.

 

The local trck is closed for the winter, but I know that if by some 1 in a million chance i beat them they wouldnt pay me.

 

I would have pulled a gun and shot the gas pumps and tried to kill all seven of you at once. That's just me though.

 

Remind me never to challenge you to a race for cash.

 

I like how you think...better option running car into gas pumps being sure to park on top of a couple of them before she all blows.

 

sorry was kinda grumpy yesterday, maybe beating them down wouldn't be a good option...here's a good one. When they're talking trash scratch your nuts and give them the 'flip your ball sweat at 'em' motion. While ignoring them non chalantly. Get in your car and drive off normaly.

 

I think you got what you deserved for revving them out with a L03 and exhaust. When you got a stock L03 you can't instigate something and then get mad when you lose. Even if you were playing. Those guys probably dont know the difference between a L03 or anything else, to them we all have V8's. So a V8 punked them out and they spanked the V8. They probably had a great laugh at your expense. So your options are either #1 continue to rev people out with a stock L03 and get spanked, #2 do not instigate anything with the stock L03 and get spanked when a race does happen, or #3 wake up and do some hot rodding if you want to race. You could make 50 more WHP for pretty cheap with the L03, look into the new things people are doing on the TBI board. Not that 50 WHP is going to make you a speed racer, but it wont be as much of a spanking. You could also do some weight reduction and get new rear tires for better traction. If you're spinning then you're not going anywhere and that initial BAM of torque and traction is one thing the V8's got that most Imports dont (unless they're launching at 20psi hehe).

Edit: Another option could be to get the fake E-bay electronic blow off valve and attempt to scare them. Just be sure to press it when you shift and not at the wrong time or it will be obvious LOL

 

I agree with Crazy, you more or less isntigated, and then got shut up when they wanted to race. Shouldnt have done anything short of driven off before they saw you or said anything!

For every LO3 a Civic or Integra beats, the cockier they get, and ALL us V8 guys have to hear it!

 

I dont even start anything with my 5 speed LB9 since I know I would look like a retard and even if I won it wont be by much really.....think you asked for it

 

No I said that I would race them for fun and not money. Hey who cares if I lose it was just a race, Ill run for money in about a year when I get the tunnel ram 383, trick flow topend kit with a cheater plate that a car you run for money with.

 

 

Well then in a year start revving... I for one know if someone around here revs... you more or less have to then race someone, and if they want to only go for money, they are smart. Why risk a race for no gains other than pride (if you can even call it that)!

 

hehe, can i race them for money?

 

I see in your sig that you run low 13's, I honestly think that they would beat you by alot, these guys are probly in the low to mid 12's. You can hear their turbos from like a block away.

 

So if your turbo is loud your car is fast? Stu can you confirm this?

 

i wouldve raced them for yah! stock as is right now and murded them for you....with you in the passenger seat....**** id beat them with my old 83 camaro

 

I wouldnt judge a car by how loud its turbo is... Id judge it by how fast it is!

I would have confidence on the street, as it would take a good top end charge for the average FWD car to run down a 12 second RWD car (for the most part). The low to mid 12s "guess" is that figuring street radials, or slicks?

 

its a guess...if your like a 15 second car and your guessing 12s that would be kidna dificult they couldve been easily mid high 13ers

 

Seen them run before they are extremely quick. They might be so quick becuase im thinkin they got a bottle hidden in it not too sure though.

 

Lets say they are 13er's they still would beat me BAD.

 

From the cockpit of a 15 second car (been there), a 13 second car looks damn fast! But from the cockpit of a 12 second car (been there), a 13 second car looks... somewhat slower...

Its hard to tell what people run on the street just by watching them without knowing a mod list, or a timeslip. id say theres a chance they are in the 12s, but whose to say! So many people are scared of what the track will show them, that they run around on the street and avoid it...

 

It seems everyone runs at least 13's these days...



















That is, until they actually got to the track!

 

Loudness of turbo doesn't have much to do with how fast the car is. The reason fast cars have loud turbos is because of their large exhaust, no cats, open atmosphere dump tubes, etc.

Same with a Camaro. You can put straight pipes on some crap box and it will be loud, but it doesn't mean that it'll be fast.

 

booyashaka stu you damn right

 

You could start doing the import thing. Primer the car, at least two different colors, Lower it on 12 inch steel wheels and junkyard tires, gather as many stickers as possible and put the in the ugliest place you can think of, use electrical conduit to make a roll cage that just sits on the back seats. Next swap a couple plug wires and consistantly rev the engine, now get a lot of attitude and park your car and refuse to race everybody cause youre just too fast..... or you can do what i do with my lo3 with headers and exhaust, take your beatings like a man.

 

Or you can build a fast car, and not worry about street races, because the track is a much better place to prove yourself! I have won more money racing at the track than the street, and at the track I get to race cars with similar mods, making it more of a race than just two random cars going at it!

Just remember without track times, your car doesnt run anything...

 

That's not the "import thing." That's the "Poor high school kid with less taste than money thing."

 

RACING FOR CASH IS A BAD IDEA, i got into the street racing scene when i was younger and i am definately not proud of what i was doign when i look back, it was dumb dangerous and a quick way to get yourself killed, my buddy had a asian kid pull a beretta on him one night after he didnt have the cash to cover a 25 dollar race, i wish someone had been there to tell me wow dude this is dumb stay away from it, unfortunately i didnt have that growing up and learned the hardway, my best friend was racing a civic when he was killed, had the guy not put up 200 buck my friend wouldnt have been running him on that road, at that time and at the speeds of the collission when it happened, i had to learn my lesson by loosing my best friend...and worse yet seeing it right infront of me and not being able to do anything about it....ok now that the fatherly type speech is over

THey are telling everyone you are slow and they smoked a v8, if you are going to be dumb you have to be smart at being dumb pick your races, unfortunateyl with your combo theres not a ton out there you can walk over, back in the day i had to figure out what i could and couldnt do, 5.0 stangs from a light no problem, .0 stangs from a 40 mph roll=trouble etc

Nowadays i get alot of people trying to get money runs, especially those that know me from back in the day, my answer is i am out of that life, i grew up learned my lesson and dont wanna get back into that life, i say if you wanna run me pay my track fee and i'll gladly show you the tails or looser pays the winner fee....

I'll get ricers at shows and cruises trying to get me to run they're rides and i just joking but seriously say i'll bring it out but for no less than 1500 bucks, that usually calms em down and gets em snooping around under the hood as to why i'm so confident, i ahve yet to have someone pull out 1500

 

So what do you have done to the car??? Also any track times?

I know some guys locally that are similar, but have 800 hp cars, and go for much less $$!

 

I also would like to know what mods you have done to your engine and track times. Sweet paint job you got there! Ever though about some different rims?



but seriously say i'll bring it out but for no less than 1500 bucks

You say that dribble where I live and you'll get called on that bluff! Hell I'll take you up on that offer and probably take your money too! LOL

 

im pretty sure his car is basically stock under the hood, just has a nice exterior.

 

Really??? Ill run him for 1500... Mines basically stock under the hood!

 

WRONG!!!


I know what my car runs and I have not taken it tot he track









it runs TOO DAMN SLOW!!!!

 

My 4 cyl is like that too... I have no numbers for it... but I can make a rough guess and where it runs, if Im a second off... it doesnt matter!

 

Oh no its got work done, it can somewhat back up the look, it doest do 9's or anything but it doesnt have a ton of street manners either,


AS for the 1500 buck things, you have to read the people, i wouldnt run for 1500 even if it was a kid on a trike, you guys messed the whole point of my entire post, i see some 16 year old kid pull in with a pieced together civic and he comes up and starts talking, i kno whe doesnt have cash to back it up and usually he goes oh well he must be fast then and leaves ya alone

 

I understand, its a good way to ward off people who wont stop annoying you for a race. I have done it a few times and it does work. I have also seen it backfire, as there are guys out there with fast cars that will easily run someone who says that! Thats why I race in a class at the track... Everyone has almost the same comboes, its all fair, noone will get shot, and the money is gaurenteed up front!

 

Exactly, glad someone sees my point, at the wednesday night test and tunes out here the colorado state patrol is really pushing to get kids onto the track, which i back 100 percent, i know quite a few folks who have ran grudge matches there and money is involved between the two, but it is supervised..

I think the problem with most kids or even grown people racing on the streets is never going to a track, i was the same way, why pay 35 bucks to go do it there when i can do it for free and even make money doing it on the street, as i said earlier i seen that backire in front of my own eyes, i was also on a ankle bracelet for a few months(long story) but or altercation i was involed in living that life......now that i'm older and have more common sense my dad had told me he knew i was doing it, he was constantly pushing for me to go to the track, finall he came up to me and goes i tell ya what i will pay your fee if you go, just once is all i ask.....just once is all it took, theres so much more thrill with spectators and waiting or the lights to drop its unreal and if you've been you know what i mean, he told me he knew all it would take was one trip to the strip and i would turn around, i thank *** everyday he did or i might not be around today

 

sad thing is at these speeds 1 second is around 2-3 bus lengths.
sad thing though is your 4cyl has more poop to it then my honda.... by around 20hp
my torque is fairly close at least to your horsepower

 

Yeah I have the high hp model to boot. 110 maybe (I forget the number exactly) and probably not much more torque. Throw that in a 3000+ lb car, and its one hell of a dog! Thank *** its a 5-speed and the higher hp model. I was looking at a convertable with the 88 hp motor... OUCH!

Its funny, Im in my prime for street racing. I live 2+ hours from ANY track, 20 years old, with a quick car! Yet as far as "organized" races go, I have never been in one. As far as stop light battles, maybe half dozen times TOPS, and as far as highway races, maybe half dozen as well. Why risk everything you worked hard for to prove your cars fast!

 

n/m you win
I only have 68hp and 76lbs/ft of torque in my honda
but then again I'm a lot lighter then you at 2016lbs when new.

 

The thing I hate about going to the tracks is that they don't let you match up with your friends and race them atleast where I live. Time and time again I get matched up with a guy running low 7's or 6's in the 1/8 mile. I do have a nova that will run with them but I like running my camaro and racing slightly moded cars it just more fun to me. I could drive to a 1/4 mile track but its 1 1/2 hrs away and I'm lazy and don't want to make the drive and then spend $30 to race.

So thats why I like to get up with a group of friends and race their cars for $20 or a beer. When you go head hunting thats when trouble starts. When I finish detailing my car there is a small mustang club I'm going after a few friends of mine joined. They have a 67 mustang with a 289ci and a 95 cobra clone 5.0 The 67 I know I can take but the 95 I not too sure about, its strong very strong! I let everyone know when I beat them or get my head cut off one.

 

See out here you can run grudge matches, from what i've heard but people just running take priority and you gotta kinda wait for your turn, but really are you going to see what you can do or going to race the other guy, its i always hated having a cammed blown big block sitting next to me when i just wanna get times on what mine was doing....it trips with the mind

 

I have never had an issue running anyone I want. Just head to the lanes together and ask the guys around you if you can line up, or tell the starter...

Also Im 2+ hours from any track, 1/8 or 1/4, and still dont succomb to the street racing drug! Id rather not have to learn my lesson after a bad accident or something... so I just refrain!