I was wondering how everyone thinks i would do up against one of the new goats, i heard they were fun little power houses and have seen a couple but was never driving at the time so havent got the chance yet, so what does everyone think the outcome would be, just for the hell of it, with the gears i got now, and with the soon to be currie ford rear with 3:45 gears. o and the car i would be driving is the top one in the sig, my t/a.

 

if you're making less than 280rwhp, you don't stand a chance especially with 2.73 gears...3.45's you probably wouldn't see a big difference against the same car either.

 

well i have an est. 327 hp and 405 ft/lbs, take a look at the mod list on my sig, i pretty much have a ZZ4 engine, but TPI takes a little HP down from the 355 HP the TPI is capable of, but have not dynoed the car yet.

 

if you happen to dyno the car and make the numbers you listed or even very close, with a good tune and some gears it could be a drivers race against a STOCKISH GTO.

 

once the owners start getting serious with LS2, forget it.

 

yea most of the people who i see on the road driving one i wouldent think has it moded too much but you really can never tell, i was pretty much talking about stock to what i got.

 

04 GTO will put down near 280 whp or so. IRS eats some of that LS1 so they are abit less than the Fbodies. and they are abit heavier at 3725lbs curb weight. with driver your lookin at near 3900lbs and 280whp.

LS2's are 340whp, similar weight.

04's are mid 13's with decent driver and can trap 104mph. most are somewhere in that range 102-104. might go 105 in right conditions.

05's are about lower 13's at abit more mph at 105-107mph or so. seems to be what i'm seeing.

your combo should be close race with 04's. 05's Ls2's will pull you abit. they just walk away.

once they bolt on mods tho, all bets are off.. lsx motors and mods are just amazing

 

Thats why im browsing around for the right time to but my HSR, better torque converter, the gears mentioned above, and the one thing i really want for that car is a T56, that would be a dream come true.

 

04 M6 GTO usually dyno around 300rwhp. And A4 usually 280-290rwhp.

There have been bone stock '04 6spd cars run 13.1. I got down to 13.2@105. Its tricky to launch and not get wheel hop.

It should be a good race either way.

 

They are halting the production of the GTO until the next generation because the new air bag regulations will require them to make too much of a change to the dash.

 

Sort of. Even before they built the first 04 GTO, they said it was only going to be for 3 years. The Monaro has already stopped being produced. The Commodore is being built right now and that is the only ZETA platform manufactured right now.

The ZETA will also be the Camaro and next gen GTO. More than likely an '09 but the head of Holden has already stated that '08 could be a reality if things progress well.

The safety issue is part of the reason for ending in '06. But the platform was started in '98, so it basically ran its course.

 

Thanks Stu, you just gave me more time to mod my t/a, might as well go for the next gens, start from the top instead of the bottom

 

They stopped making the Ford GT already too.

 

Are you serious!!!! , i know i could never get one but man i love seeing those things cruising down PCH, ive only got to ride in one, guy bought a cheap *** computer from me had me help him fit into his GT, i couldent belive he bought that computer and had that car, but he offered a ride that i couldent resist, that car pulls unbelivably, too bad he didnt let crash, i mean drive it.

 

It's only like $90,000.

 

They have one around here for 135,000.

 

wow, i didnt know they were that cheap, i know he said his was more than 150,000 dont know if theres option packages, but i thought he said he ordered it for a quarter mil.... dont remember buy it was over a year ago if im correct, and it was a ordered car, dont know about that process, but i would love to have one, but being about 21, i dont quite have 90 g's saved up.... YET! haha.

 

STU- Where did you see 90,000?

 

It sounds like I'm wrong, but they aren't all that much compared to other cars in thier league.

 

Yep, just around where I thought it'd be.

http://www.fordvehicles.com/fordgt/faq.asp

Your friend must have dropped a quarter million on the car to get one of the first ones or something.

 

i completly agree with you, for a supercar i think its an amazing price, we can easily say for a tiny fraction of the price we can beat the crap out of them with what started as a iron duke, but it will never really feel like that car does, you cant appreciate it til u have been in one.

 

True BUT the new Corvette is only 65,000 and runs about the same 1/4 times as the Ford GT and beats the Dodge Viper.

 

true, but for me a supercar is alot more than a straight line, the car has the handling of a ***!

 

According to Road and Track, Motor Trend, and Car and Driver the car hangs with the GT in every catagory. So it must be true.

 

wow so the new vettes do as well on a road course as the GT. I love the vettes, but they have just never been exotic, but thats because they usually kick the crap as far as price goes with most exotics, so there not super rare. I would love to own a new vette but a weeks insurance is probably more than i can afford .

 

The Vette would probably be worth $150,000 if it were a different market, but just like with the GT, people are only going to pay so much for just a Dodge, Chevy, or Ford.

People freaked out when VW announced an $80,000 price tag for one of their cars.

 

vette is more mass produced than the limited run ford GT. the ford gt commonly go for over msrp.. 175K-200K. some are lucky to find them cheap at 150K. LOL

if the vette was limited, it would be abit more expensive. closer to 100K or so i thinks