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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 09:39 AM
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Car: 92 RS AKA the Aluminum Falcon
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Need some info

Hi. Im new to the site and to owning a camaro. I made the switch from the dark side and stopped driving my parents mustang and bought a 92 rs. i race when i can and need some hep determining how fast my car is. Its TBI, with a 7OOr4 tranny, 4.1O gears, and a high performance shift kit. its automatic. woud anyone know a 1/4 time or O-6O for it? And what woud i have to do to it to get it to beat something ike an O7 mustang GT?
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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 11:16 AM
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Re: Need some info

The 07 GT with a decent driver should go mid 13s. A TBI is going to need a lot of stuff to get that number...
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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 11:29 AM
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you would need a cam heads tb work and a few more things im not thinking of you should go look at the tbi section of this board
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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 02:56 PM
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Re: Need some info

An 07 GT is a 300 horsepower car that runs high 13's. I believe the RS TBI cars only had 170 hp, and ran the 1/4 in 16.0-16.2. So your going to need a full exhaust, cam, heads intake work, and you may even need some juice
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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 03:01 PM
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They pretty much have this covered. By the way welcome to TGO and good job transferring from the dark side
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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 07:06 PM
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Yep it will take alot, or a good shot of nitrous. Check my sig, I need a more aggressive cam, but that's alot of work to get 14.5. My next step is a 150 shot, and maybe a better cam. By the way I did beat a new GT with the time below, but he wasn't a great driver. I ripped him out of the hole. Got it on video if you would like to see.

Last edited by 89redliningRS; Sep 18, 2007 at 07:08 PM. Reason: added
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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 08:55 PM
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Thanks you guys. I'll definetly check out the tbi section. I',m just having a hard time getting a bearing on exactly what i can run. I went neck and neck withan early 90's vette. guess it could have been a crappy driver but still, got me pumped. anyway, thanks again.
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 12:36 AM
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Car: 85 T/A, 92 Rs
Engine: L98:D,L03:<
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Axle/Gears: 3.23 bw, 2.73 10 bolt.
Re: Need some info

you picked a great name for the boards. i own an l03 car, i drive an l98 car. cheaper path to the 13's was 2 g's on a car vs 3 g's on supporting mods and an engine rebuild. then again i run 14's,,,,so maybe my plan failed? dunno but those gears are hurting you a great deal, the one thing they did right on from the factory imop, was the gearing of the cars, 3.23 even starts to feel a lil short in my car, i kinda want 3.08's.
you're definately not in the 13's, how bout that? and probably faster then a 16.5, i'd put you on, 15's, high 15's since that gear and trans with any sort of power equals wheels spin off the line.
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 02:00 AM
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Re: Need some info

I'de actually like to see what an L03 would do with 4.10's, exhaust, and a camshaft. The motor doesn't make alot of power to begin with I don't think it would hurt it to horribly to overgear it like that as long as you don't have to over rev it to get it through the 1/4. If the car doesn't do 4th gear shifts at WOT I would get the stuff to change that and see how it does. I know 4th gear isn't ideal, you really want to be at your HP peak in 3rd but quite a few of the 5 speed guys run 5th through the quarter and do well with it. One very viable option you have is to swap over to a carb engine and get it building power up high. Your money would probably be better spent building a nice 350 carb motor and purchasing a stall, but it's ultimatly going to come down to what you want to do with the car in the long run. If it's just a daily driver/weekend toy I would invest in a nitrous kit, headers, and full exhaust and leave it at that.
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 04:15 PM
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Car: 85 T/A, 92 Rs
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Transmission: 700r4x2
Axle/Gears: 3.23 bw, 2.73 10 bolt.
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4.10's would kill that car, badly. those gears get you right into the range where the power isn't, 3.08's would be a good stock gear for performance on that car.
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 09:13 PM
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Car: 92 RS AKA the Aluminum Falcon
Engine: 5.0L TBI
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Axle/Gears: 4.10
Re: Need some info

Yeah. CamaroRslow nailed it when he said "daily driver". Thats exactly it. Basically i need some easy mods that i can do within a day. I neeed the car to keep running, and i cant have it torn apart for long periods of time. I basically need some bolt on mods that can help gain power little by little. hence why i'm thinking of intake related jobs, stuff that i can swrtch out relatively easily for little cost.
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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 12:01 AM
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Re: Need some info

Originally Posted by rsmoneypit
Thanks you guys. I'll definetly check out the tbi section. I',m just having a hard time getting a bearing on exactly what i can run. I went neck and neck withan early 90's vette. guess it could have been a crappy driver but still, got me pumped. anyway, thanks again.
definately a crappy driver/out of tune/just toying with you or something. i had a pair of C4 Vettes... the first was a 89' auto that went 13.9 at 99mph bone stock. the 2nd was a 93' 6speed that went 13.3 at 107mph bone stock

theres no way your car is anywhere near the 13s
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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 12:05 AM
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Car: 85 T/A, 92 Rs
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Transmission: 700r4x2
Axle/Gears: 3.23 bw, 2.73 10 bolt.
Re: Need some info

I agree, just didn't want to be the first one to say it..

Get a stock rear end out of a t/a or a newer z28(make sure it's a ten bolt not a nine) and swap your rear's for a 3.23 or 3.08 unit. I'm telling you those gears aren't helping you a bit and they're sucking down gas that could be saved for mods that do work. Faster and cheaper to drive, not often you get that. A 90-92 Z-28 rear end would be good, that way you can be sure you don't get the 9 bolt, nothing wrong with the 9's but a 10 for a 10 is an easier swap.

If you have low down power and not high end, you need to gear for that, 4.10's just aren't the right gear. There's a stigma towards higher gears in the racing world, but you drive the car daily as well. if you read up on the technology of the time, they were going for longer gears and lower end torque. Ask around you'll find other members will agree with me.

Also you could sell that 4.10 rear easily to someone who has a motor that can use the short gear, this upgrade could actually be profitable.
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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 10:44 AM
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Car: 92 RS AKA the Aluminum Falcon
Engine: 5.0L TBI
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 4.10
Re: Need some info

Yeah, i didnt think for a moment i was faster than a vette. I just had a hard time beiving i kept up wiht one. the rear end idea sounds good, but it poses the questions of time and money. How much for either one?
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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 02:21 PM
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Car: 85 T/A, 92 Rs
Engine: L98:D,L03:<
Transmission: 700r4x2
Axle/Gears: 3.23 bw, 2.73 10 bolt.
Re: Need some info

You can check the boards here to see if one's for sale, but I recomend a j-yard. i cant see it being more then $200, but i would expect less. factor in what you make back on the 4.10 rear, relatively cheap.

Doing a good cleanup on the rear while its out is good, you might as well pull the rear cover while you're at the yard and check for excessive metal shavings in the lubrication. just put the cover back on when you're done!

I didn't think about it but this would also give you disc brakes out back and if you stick to the years i suggested you'll get the good pbr calipers. check out the brake board for more info on that. It does mean that if you want those discs you'll have to do a bit more work to make the full swap, i'm no expert on the swap but it sounds easy enough just check out the brake board.

i should think if you're well prepared, it ought to be a solid days work to swap, in a weekend for sure.
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