cameron7710

ok so i more than prity sure my camaro would win vs my brothers 88 accord dx so we've been arguing about who would win so tell me what u think who will win? how fast do u think our times would be?

about the cars

my car is a 92 camaro rs with nothing but the stock 305 tbi 700r4 auto trans it has 288,000 miles.

mods:
flowmaster cat back
k&n air filter


my brothers car 88 accord dx carburated 4 door 5 speed manual it has 277,000 miles

mods:
racing clutch
k&n air filter
MagnaFlow muffler


i dont really think he has a chance but there both pretty stock high mile cars and i just wanted ur guys opinon about it

89RS_82Z

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do you have to ask such a question, lol is it a 4 banger and if so what 4 banger, as far as i remember the dx was the crud wagon of accords

is you K&N an open breather???

also manualy go through your gears


does his car sound like a wet fart? if he has performance stickers and a wing watch out that adds 300HP

leeperryracing

if you don't have anything to post, read through the threads in the different sections and learn something.

cameron7710

i know. i didnt think he would have a shot i just wanted to show him how meany people agreed with me cause he dosent know to much about cars yet so at this point he still thinks his car can beat eny thing but ill fix that.

and his honda dosent have a dumbass spoiler and body kits and all that **** that people thing makes there car fast hes tying to work on the engine as much as he can and i can say his exhaust is the least gay sounding exhaust u can get on a honda its the bests inport sound i ever heard but it still dont compare to my v8 with flowmaster

oh and my k&n isnt open yet but im geting it soon

8T9 BANDIT

race from a dig, light to light. you should take him if u get traction off the line. pedal it in there. he has no torque.. but keep the race short. then youll have him by a couple car legnths..

PHAT89TA

ur lose. dont race him

freestylzz

What's there to work on??

Listen, tell your brother to save his money and not spend it on that hunk-o-junk!

z28gsxr

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I had a 95 Nissan 200sx 1.6 L 5spd. With catback exhaust cold air intake and underdrive crank pulley and I remember racing my boys 91 RS TBI 5.0 and it was a short race and i beat him. Once we hit about 60mph he was catching up but the race was over. So if he knows how do drive it he may keep up with u although i don't know how fast those accords are just comparing to the 4cyl i had

Vanilla Sky

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Having owned 2 88 DX's, I'll tell you that you'll walk all over him. The carbed third gen Accords generally have carb problems. They have a rat's nest of vacuum lines that make the car hard to work on if anything ever goes wrong. The fuel injected models would be a different story. The Honda would still lose the race, but it would be a somewhat closer match.

In 1988, the carbed Accord made 98HP. The fuel injected model of the same year made 122HP.

http://3geez.wiki-tv.com/

L.I.N.Y.92CAMARO

Why even race with two very slow cars?

Also are you going to race at a track or just on the open road?

Just curious why you are looking for E.T's for both cars when they are lucky to be 15 secound cars...




-LINY

cameron7710

i know both the cars r slow its just some brother rivalry
and theses r ur onlry cars to race so

bb87camaro

I think it is fun to have the friend and/or brother hot rod rivalry.My brother and I always had friendly competition and now that he is gone (at 25 years old)I miss it.But if you race just do it at a track.It is more accurate and much safer.I had a 10 second street car and was an idiot racing on the street.I never wrecked but was lucky.
Also a 15. second street car is a pretty healthy street car and nothing to be ashamed of.You have a good start and can build on it.I like to see the domestic cars beat the imports.

cameron7710

ya its good to have somone to compete with and ya i dont think 15 seconds is to bad for a daily driver when i get some money im probley gona just drop a 350 and a posi rear end in it and call it good then i'll see what i can go about buildin a real fast third gen(cant decide between a bird or maro)

bb87camaro

I had an interesting challenge to race one night at a cruise night in Bucyrus Ohio.A girl (yes a girl) drove up in a second gen trans am with the olds 403 in it and said"How does that run?"I said pretty good ,I can do a big burnout for you.She said "No,how does that run?"I said you want to race?She said "Yes".I told her I didn't know the area so she said" Follow me". I smoked her pretty bad but her car knowledge and car impressed me.I'll never forget that one.

streetassasin

I doubt your rs will run a 15, I had the same mods on a 89 rs: flowmaster catback and an open element. I ran a 16.77 @ 81.10 2.45 60ft plus you almost have 300,000 miles if you run a 16 you should be happy. Next time I go to the track its going to be with the car in my sig, it will also have a 4000 stall, lookin for some 12.4's 109-111mph

Stevo

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92 RS vs 88 Accord

the title about summed it up for me.

Vanilla Sky

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Actually, if the Camaro is as listed above, and the Accord were fuel injected, it would be a pretty close race, considering the big differences in the cars. Goes to show what losing weight can do for you.

maro_of_the_92

i can only hope you beat him dude.

Vanilla Sky

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If he doesn't, there's a pretty serious problem with the Camaro. That DX is ***** slow.

Stevo

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Thats not what i'm laughing at, i've seen 305s get embarrassed by about anything, its more of that its just kind of pathetic to think about asking who would win question against a 1988 honda accord. Its an economy box, nothing about that car was performance oriented yet we have a 1992 rs camaro trying to race it.

Vanilla Sky

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Very true. Kind of what I've been thinking. Car that was built to haul a family around (although it was built to compete with the BMW 3-series, not other econoboxes of the day), and a car that was built to be a "sports car."

The Accord was never meant to be fast, as you've pointed out.

Why Chevy ever bothered with the TBI 305 is beyond me. I hate the one in my Camaro. It's crap. At least with TPI, it wasn't horrible.

brodyscamaro

Pathetic.

cameron7710

ya i know i would ever of even asked but my brother (the accord owner)is so full of him self thinking his car can beat enything i just had to show him how meany people think hes crazy

Vanilla Sky

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Yeah, show him he's full of it. Let him know that his motor might be getting 85HP to the ground. The filter does almost nothing for this particular car. The stock clutch is overkill for a stock car, so that negates that. Additionally, most "racing" clutches for those Hondas are the same as OEM, just in flashier boxes (the OEM is an Exedy/LUK clutch, as are most of the "performance" clutches, the same down to the stampings on the PP and disk). That exhaust will free up maybe 2WHP. Big deal.

If he wants to beat your car, tell him to rip the stock Keihin carb off and at LEAST toss on a Weber 32/36. That is the biggest performance gain for that car.

If he wants to make the car faster, he can go to www.3geez.com and read up some. They'll tell him the same thing, to either convert to a Weber, convert to EFI, or buy an LXi or SEi.

cameron7710

ya plus that cluch he has is worse for himcause his transmission is old and startin to die when he got the clutch put in the guy try to explain to him that if dose enything stupid it will just rip that tranny to shreds but he just had to have it for some reson even tho on the box it said not recommended for sreet use so i dont think it was a good idea to put a clutch for a track car in a dieing street car but i guess he will have to learn from his mistakes.and also i guess his accord is a lx not dx but i still dont think its much better

PoorBoyRS

I hate to throw gas on the import vs domestic fire, but I honestly think the little 240sx that I paid 100 bucks for will hang with the z28 that I just bought... I know that little nissan would run off and hide from my RS. That thing has a boatload of torque for a 2.4L (160 ft/lbs, no laughing matter when you're pullin a factory 2500 lbs)

8T9 BANDIT

hondas suck donkey d***

irocz2889

honestly i wouldnt race him if i had that many miles on my car i would baby that thing everywhere i went. its not worth blowing your car up over rice. your car would win in the first 60 feet anyway

25thmustang

The winner of this race will be the rest of the traffic on the street at that time of the day. Why race 18 second cars with 1/4 of a million miles on them? There can't be much fun in flooring it and going from 0-60 in 15-16 seconds can there, especially enough fun to abuse a car with nearly 300K miles.

I say hold off on a race like this, but if your hell bent on it your gonna win.

Vanilla Sky

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Good point.

Although, I wouldn't mind seeing that Accord motor throw a rod. That's something I've only seen a few times.

lapp71

wow a lot of you people have some weird ideas of Hondas! I have an 88 accord lxi and that thing has some power! you *******s with your big powerful american cars think you have so much power, but that accord...if its fuel injected would easily keep up with the RS. I have absolutly no mods to mine and its runs perfectly at 224000 miles!

cameron7710

ok first off its not fuel injected and second dont become a meber of a site just to talk **** about the cars that the site is for dumass

Vanilla Sky

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Lapp, I've owned SEVERAL of those Hondas. I have one sitting in my back yard right now, waiting to be stripped down for a rallycross car. I know them inside and out.

And I know that even the LXi, wihtout mods, will be slower than a 305 TBI Camaro, again without mods. If it did manage to keep up well, it would have to be in top shape, while th eCamaro was in crap shape.

Now, just a couple wise mods to the Accord, and yeah, it'll be faster.

Codename 47

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I'd never race on the street unless it's worth it. Two 16/17 second cars are not worth the ticket. Having a neck and neck race with a Z06 is a different story. But being neck and neck with a Honda.....

Vanilla Sky

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And a 98HP Honda at that :P