Serious Questions... PLEASE be Unbiased. ( I didnt know where to put this I really didnt want a comparison but didnt see a "General Question" section)

Hey all hows it going, First post! Anyways My name is kacy, im from Wilmington NC, I search local forums alot and I came across this Camaro and I fell in love now im interested in getting 1.

Screamin85Z is his name on the local forums :P But I love his car!

Now lemme get to it!

How well does the 350 3rd gen stack up to a foxbody mod for mod? I am trying to do my homework so I dont jump on the wrong car and kick myself in the *** yet again.... I know NOTHING about 3rd gens. Im a mustang guy sorry lol.

What is the most power the stock bottom end can hold?

Was the 700r4 the only transmission available? What is its power cap?

I know mustangs have the most after market for them but are Third gens the same? can I find multiple different superchargers or turbo kits with tested and proven review?

I know there is a million different ways this could turn out... but please let me know some unbiased opinions... I really want to get an Iroc and give this a shot but might just get another foxbody because I know they are proven.

My cousin owns a foxbody that has my old engine lol, and I really wanna bust his *** with a Camaro so help me out with as much info as you can.

Heres my fox I sold. and regret .





306 4:10's Stalled c4 seen some spray lol.

 

Unbiased opinions here??? Now that's funny!!! But I will give mine...

I've built both, a few Fox bodies and a few less Camaro's... Both have their good and bad points...

Similarities:
1. Excellent parts availability for either, prices are close to the same, too.
2. Project cars and used parts are plentiful and reasonably priced.\
3. Resale is about the same for both.

Mustang "good"
1. Probably a bit more rigid structure, will handle horsepower increases without a lot of chassis mods.
2. Much lighter in the front, mainly because of the rack and pinion steering and less frontal overhang.
3. A bit better on the front to rear weight distribution then the Camaro's.

Camaro "good"
1. Much smoother ride
2. Some really first rate interior upgrade options came right out of the factory.
3. Smoother and cleaner lines lend themselves better to styling changes and mods.
4. Roomier engine compartment, more room for "extras".


No real preference for me on the Camaro v. Mustang thing... I've had both and gone quite fast in both... IMO the Camaro is a bit more widely accepted, but the Mustang's have a huge following, too. As to which is better...too many variables, comes down to personal preference. Heck, I like them both! Both were put on the market when I was in my teens, and I instantly loved them both!!! The wars between Chevy and Ford will probably keep going on forever, and I'll probably keep building both!!!!

 

I have a buddy that is in love with mustangs. He built 2 foxbodies in the last few years and for the money he invested the cars should've been a lot faster. Nice foxbody it looks just like the second one he had.

One was stock short block with trick flow heads and cobra intake, ran 14's.

Second one he dumped about 5k into the motor alone and ran low 13's all had aftermarket suspension and the second car was on 10" slicks. From my experience a camaro with 3k into the motor (my car) nothing done to the rest of the car lowered stock open diff (one wheel peel) i ran high 13 with a t-5 (broke on the way home opps) I feel the camaros can be faster with the same amount of work. which gets to my thrid point...

5.7 350 > 5.0 302

I mean if you threw in a 351 then i think it could be just as fast maybe faster i dont know about that because i havent ever seen one run.

He now has a 4.6L modular mustang 99 maybe? but he is claiming to be fast with lots of upgrades but i think he is B.S.ing me hardcore either way he wants to run me so it will be fun now that I have a built 700r4 behind a fully forged 388 WATCH OUT!

 

IIRC all throughout the 80s, articles stated that mustangs outperformed camaros, yet the camaro handled better
from the factory that is

 

Stock for stock it all depended on the driver and conditions. As for Modding. The SBC's are the most popular OHV engines ever made. You can get pretty much anything aftermarket for the chevy engine that you can for the ford. The 700r4 that was availoable behind the 350 can be built to handle good power but a built th350 can handle more. The only real areas were the mustang was better then the camaro are the rear end and the mpfi manifold design. You will need to get an aftermarket rear for any serious power. I have seen guys build the stock rear's to handle around 450 horse/lbs but thats pushing it. Strange and Moser both sell 12 bolt and ford 9 inch direct fit rears. For all out preformance and from the looks of your old horse I would pull the TPI in favor of carb. It would be the cheapest route otherwise you would want to change to a HSR/miniram style intake. The 350 chevy is a very stout piece to work with the stock bottom end can handle alot of power its the rpm's you need to watch, you don't rreally want to spin a stock bottom end much past 6000 or you start to risk catastorphic failure.
I say try a thirdgen if you liked foxbody's you should like thirdgens too.

 

.... I almost built a notchback w/351 windsor a few years back. Very good engines;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDybpBrozg8

 

Good information.

 

I've got a ton of mods on my Camaro mostly for weight reduction, it does 13.4's at 100 on Et Street's. I built a Mustang for a friend of mine from JUNK, that is no exaggeration the car he bought had been bought and stripped for parts, we picked up spares from a bunch of other peoples fox cars build (you know the parts people throw away when they put better ones on). His car did 13.7's at 100 on street tires and weighed basically nothing, he was sub 3000. His car was also brutally uncomfortable and noisy but for what it was it was real fun. The biggest motivator in that car was a set of 4.11 gears. The foxes have a TON of potential and a lot of people mismatch parts and actually slow the cars down from what they can run. They also have a decent rear end, and forged internals so you can put stupid amounts of nitrous to them if you're careful.