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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 12:57 AM
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Why so many "what if's" and no actual races or video?

Just curious, every time I visit the street racing section on here, 90% of the new posts are always "what if" scenarios where no race ever happens. I think we should have a seperate "what if" section and then have a dedicated street race section to split up the two ideas a little.

That and we need more videos!!!!!! Yea it's cool to hear how you beat a car but I could post a kill story every day on here if I wanted to but you'd never know if it was the truth or not. I like to see video to actually watch how fast a car is. When my trans am is done I will have plenty of vids to post but we need more people to join in too and film thier races! Let's see what you've got guys....start carrying those digital camaras on ya!

Sorry if this isn't an actual race.....just stating an opinion of mine and thought this was the right section for it.
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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 01:26 AM
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Re: Why so many "what if's" and no actual races or video?

what if...
this topic wasn't ever posted?
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Re: Why so many "what if's" and no actual races or video?

I think your Missing the "Theoretical" part of the "Theoretical and Street Racing" Section on the forums haha.

Anyways least for my Race: https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/theo...ng-battle.html

That you've posted on and are aware of, won't be happening til Springish Summer when track opens.
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All in all its pretty much just the seasons man. Its always slow in here during the Winter b/c a lot of us take the 3rdgens off the roads.
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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 04:22 AM
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what if...
this topic wasn't ever posted?
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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 08:11 AM
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Re: Why so many "what if's" and no actual races or video?

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Hey, Slash, I don't mean to get off topic here but are you on Youtube and F-Quick? There's a guy on Youtube with the Slash username who commented on my video and I was wondering if that was you?
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I think your Missing the "Theoretical" part of the "Theoretical and Street Racing" Section on the forums haha.

Anyways least for my Race: https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/theo...ng-battle.html

That you've posted on and are aware of, won't be happening til Springish Summer when track opens.
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All in all its pretty much just the seasons man. Its always slow in here during the Winter b/c a lot of us take the 3rdgens off the roads.
If that was you then you see my videos whenever I upload them. Thanks for commenting on them and as another poster on here posted just the other day about a video section, I don't know if the owners would make a subsection for that. I could see that getting out of hand and off topic easily. But who knows?
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Re: Why so many "what if's" and no actual races or video?

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If that was you then you see my videos whenever I upload them. Thanks for commenting on them and as another poster on here posted just the other day about a video section, I don't know if the owners would make a subsection for that. I could see that getting out of hand and off topic easily. But who knows?
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Re: Why so many "what if's" and no actual races or video?

Originally Posted by zraffz
what if...
this topic wasn't ever posted?
Well since this is an open discussion forum, I think that any topic can, and will be posted. If you have nothing to add, don't type anything.

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I think your Missing the "Theoretical" part of the "Theoretical and Street Racing" Section on the forums haha.

Anyways least for my Race: https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/theo...ng-battle.html

That you've posted on and are aware of, won't be happening til Springish Summer when track opens.
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All in all its pretty much just the seasons man. Its always slow in here during the Winter b/c a lot of us take the 3rdgens off the roads.
I know how it says "theoreticle" but if would be cool to have a race only section for us street race only guys so we didn't have the "what if's" mixed into them. LS1tech has two seperate sections like that and it works out really well.

I just get so sick of seeing "what if I raced grandma's buick in my bone stock 2.8 firebird?" Well not to be harsh, but I don't really care. That would be the slowest race I've ever seen and it's just not even fun to think about. Does anybody else know where I'm coming from?

Every other car forum has a ton of racing vids that the members post. All mustang forums, 4th gen forums, honda forums, you name it. But I RARELY see any third gen vids, and many decent ones at that. I'd love to see some cool races featuring third gens in them. Only good ones I've seen are once in the blue moon someone with an LSx swapped third gen will put one up on LS1tech.
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Re: Why so many "what if's" and no actual races or video?

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Well since this is an open discussion forum, I think that any topic can, and will be posted. If you have nothing to add, don't type anything.



I know how it says "theoreticle" but if would be cool to have a race only section for us street race only guys so we didn't have the "what if's" mixed into them. LS1tech has two seperate sections like that and it works out really well.

I just get so sick of seeing "what if I raced grandma's buick in my bone stock 2.8 firebird?" Well not to be harsh, but I don't really care. That would be the slowest race I've ever seen and it's just not even fun to think about. Does anybody else know where I'm coming from?

Every other car forum has a ton of racing vids that the members post. All mustang forums, 4th gen forums, honda forums, you name it. But I RARELY see any third gen vids, and many decent ones at that. I'd love to see some cool races featuring third gens in them. Only good ones I've seen are once in the blue moon someone with an LSx swapped third gen will put one up on LS1tech.
Well, there's a really cool video of an IROC with a beat up body but with some performance goodies (don't know all of them) that whooped a new Camaro SS' butt on Youtube. I will post the link if I can find it but just do a search on there if you want to see it.
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here a 3 vids that i have kickn some booty and 1 gettn kick'd http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIVMkdkMJMQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2FzyMrJQRQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZv3ae-x_ws enjoy
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Re: Why so many "what if's" and no actual races or video?

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Have you ever had lunch at that Waffle House across the road from the ATL Motor Speedway?
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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 06:29 PM
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since street racing is illegal thats why they put in the 'theoretical' part of the title. so forum isn't liable and shut down for talking about breaking the law. just a thought :P
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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 07:49 PM
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Re: Why so many "what if's" and no actual races or video?

Not all races are planned out and video taped.... As a matter of fact, none of the races I've ever been in have been video taped (save for ones at sanctioned events). So, most of the time all your left with is a big ego (assuming you won) and a story to tell.
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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 09:59 PM
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Re: Why so many "what if's" and no actual races or video?

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Not all races are planned out and video taped.... As a matter of fact, none of the races I've ever been in have been video taped (save for ones at sanctioned events). So, most of the time all your left with is a big ego (assuming you won) and a story to tell.
very true. had many races but they were not planed.
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Have you ever had lunch at that Waffle House across the road from the ATL Motor Speedway?
maybe once. Did you live in this area before?
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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 10:32 PM
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Re: Why so many "what if's" and no actual races or video?

This site used to have a large street racing section but it turned into a online pissing match in the late 90's / early 00's. Then it was sold and basicly anything that was an opinion ( cause of debate, conflict) was banished.

Since then, they have allowed " theoretical street racing" posts.

Most people that actually own fast 3rd gens do not post on this forum. I have been dropping by and reading this portion of the forum for many years and only see kids posting there testosteron laiden BS. Way to many owners posting weak sauce kills for a legit fast car owner to post up videos.

If you guys want to have fast 3rd gen videos posted here, stop posting BS theoretical kills about Honda's and Toyota's. It would also help if the regular posters had modded cars. A stock 3rd gen is not fast or quick, period. It was so so 20+ years ago and is not today.

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Re: Why so many "what if's" and no actual races or video?

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Nice, nice. Is that 1/4 mile or 1.8th? What do you run?

Originally Posted by Slash
since street racing is illegal thats why they put in the 'theoretical' part of the title. so forum isn't liable and shut down for talking about breaking the law. just a thought :P
Well the section is called theoreticle AND street racing so I figured it was 2 seperate topics. I understand the liability part but all the forum would have to do is put a disclaimer that says they don't promote street racing, yada yada yada.

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Not all races are planned out and video taped.... As a matter of fact, none of the races I've ever been in have been video taped (save for ones at sanctioned events). So, most of the time all your left with is a big ego (assuming you won) and a story to tell.
I understand this. I have had plenty of races that werent taped as well, but I enjoy street racing as do all my freinds so we meet up on weekends and race the whole afternoon on a "special" part of the highway. Since it's planned racing, we always have at least 2 cameras. I have plenty of edited racing vids too but unfortunately none involve a third gen or else I'd post em up.

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This site used to have a large street racing section but it turned into a online pissing match in the late 90's / early 00's. Then it was sold and basicly anything that was an opinion ( cause of debate, conflict) was banished.

Since then, they have allowed " theoretical street racing" posts.

Most people that actually own fast 3rd gens do not post on this forum. I have been dropping by and reading this portion of the forum for many years and only see kids posting there testosteron laiden BS. Way to many owners posting weak sauce kills for a legit fast car owner to post up videos.

If you guys want to have fast 3rd gen videos posted here, stop posting BS theoretical kills about Honda's and Toyota's. It would also help if the regular posters had modded cars. A stock 3rd gen is not fast or quick, period. It was so so 20+ years ago and is not today.

JMHO.
I agree with you 100%. While it's cool to beat a toyota camry or something when your 16 in your first car (third gen) it doesn't help our comunity get much respect from the rest of the car world. People laugh when they read "kills" like that and I think thats part of the reason third gens have such a bad rap. I've seen quite a bit of faster ones showing up lately but still nothing compared to other types of cars.

And as far as a pissing match, thats part of the fun of street racing! There have been some 40+ page pissing matches on LS1tech but thats part of the fun. As long as your not persoanlly attacking other members, I think it's all part of the game. I mean, c'mon, were not even allowed to swear on here. Last time I checked you had to be at least 16 to drive a car! Thats a legal adult in most places.
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racing at AMS is 1/8 mile, "arm drop" like "Pinks" or real street racing so there is no timing system but i would guess high 7s in the high 80s mph.
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racing at AMS is 1/8 mile, "arm drop" like "Pinks" or real street racing so there is no timing system but i would guess high 7s in the high 80s mph.
Wow not bad at all. So technically you should be deep into the 12's in the 1/4 with a good launch.
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the engine was in my 85 which was gutted with good gears and slicks. it ran 7.34@96
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Re: Why so many "what if's" and no actual races or video?

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maybe once. Did you live in this area before?
Yeah, I grew up in Clay Co. where you live at. Crappy place to be, lol.
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Re: Why so many "what if's" and no actual races or video?

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If you guys want to have fast 3rd gen videos posted here, stop posting BS theoretical kills about Honda's and Toyota's. It would also help if the regular posters had modded cars. A stock 3rd gen is not fast or quick, period. It was so so 20+ years ago and is not today.

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Re: Why so many "what if's" and no actual races or video?

Can't say I agree with 874ME on a stock 3rd Gen. not being fast or quick stock. If one is clean and in healthy shape the 350's are quite quick and sometimes fast, depending on who you talk to. But I've never driven a stock 3rd Gen. so I wouldn't know.....
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Can't say I agree with 874ME on a stock 3rd Gen. not being fast or quick stock. If one is clean and in healthy shape the 350's are quite quick and sometimes fast, depending on who you talk to. But I've never driven a stock 3rd Gen. so I wouldn't know.....
Certain models are quick. The problem with third gens is that there is so much of a variety of engine options that not all are created equal. The 2 "quick" factory ones being healthy 350 TPI cars and 5 speed 305 TPI models. Both will net you in the mid 14's with a good driver (the 5 speed 305's were a little quicker than the 350's I believe). However to todays standards thats about what a new corrolla or honda civic will run, and not a performance car. Either way, they can be fun stock, but when a "good" race for your third gen consists of a laughable oponent (ie an economy car) it makes for a non-entertaining story to read and just makes our cars look very un-impressive.
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Re: Why so many "what if's" and no actual races or video?

I have tons of videos... if someone starts a new Street Racing topic for just videos, I'd love to share some of my classic races from back in the 1990's. I also have loads of sanctioned 1LE and G92 Road Racing videos as well.
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Hey 874ME, most 3rd gens weren't that fast... but GM did produce a few respectable versions that run close to 13 second 1/4 miles. I believe anything that runs 14 seconds or faster in stock form is a respectable ride. The earlier 3rd gens were certainly weak, but from 1987-92 the 3rd gens started to gain respect. With performance options such as 1LE (rare) and in 1990 the G92 option becoming a full performance package, coupled with the 5-speed tranny and 5.0 liter TPI, these manual tranny cars had the more aggressive camshaft with the G92 oiption, and 3.42 gears... they were mean rides that could take out the ever popular 5.0 Mustangs, and even had a few more HP over the Fox-Body Stangs... and the most powerful of that era 1990-92 L98 245hp with "over" 300 lb ft of torque, those cars with a simply exhaust change (the factory hindering exhaust manifolds were absolutely the weakest part) could certaily run with an LT1 powered F-Body.

So to wrap up this comment... the later TPI 3rd gens weren't bad at all. As a matter of fact, they were absolute Torque Terrors!!! With torque like that, they could hang with today's Muscle with stoplight to stoplight action, but fall short up top.

But we'll keep the LS1's out of this, because we all know they are just freakish killing machines, built for power...LOL!!!
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Re: Why so many "what if's" and no actual races or video?

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I have tons of videos... if someone starts a new Street Racing topic for just videos, I'd love to share some of my classic races from back in the 1990's. I also have loads of sanctioned 1LE and G92 Road Racing videos as well.
I have seen a lot of your vids on youtube. You have a very quick car for a stock G92 LB9! Goes to show what a well driven car can achieve. I would love a seperate section for just vids on here but I don't know how one would go about getting that approved. Even if it did happen, I don't know how many vids we'd actually get up.
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Re: Why so many "what if's" and no actual races or video?

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I have seen a lot of your vids on youtube. You have a very quick car for a stock G92 LB9! Goes to show what a well driven car can achieve. I would love a seperate section for just vids on here but I don't know how one would go about getting that approved. Even if it did happen, I don't know how many vids we'd actually get up.
Well, I've got about 100 videos of my car but half of them are not videos I'd upload.
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Re: Why so many "what if's" and no actual races or video?

no good street racing vids on this site , it sucks their no good street racing vids on here . Gotta go to other sources.
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Re: Why so many "what if's" and no actual races or video?

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no good street racing vids on this site , it sucks their no good street racing vids on here . Gotta go to other sources.
I'm sure this has been made as a suggestion for this site and indeed, it would be a very easy thing to set up but the owner of the site probably doesn't want to as there's still no place on this forum for videos. I'm certain alot of fighting and arguing would be a result because of the large amount of kids who'd post videos. That's my guess as to why there is no place for videos.
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Re: Why so many "what if's" and no actual races or video?

There used to be a video section on the home page years ago. Problem was the videos were old and half didn't work. A new video section would be cool though.
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Transmission: T5 manual 5-speed
Axle/Gears: GU6 option 3.42 posi
Re: Why so many "what if's" and no actual races or video?

The old videos suffered from multiple format syndrome...LOL!!! But now with flash video and sites like YouTube and StreetFire, and the simplicity of embedding, its easier than ever, and the quality is far better than just five years ago...
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Old Feb 3, 2011 | 07:56 PM
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Car: 1991 RS
Engine: 5.0
Transmission: 700r4
Re: Why so many "what if's" and no actual races or video?

Very true.
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Old Feb 7, 2011 | 09:47 PM
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Car: 1991 Z28 convertible built 3/1/1990
Engine: Cammed 6.0L LSX
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: custom Ford 8.8", 4.10 gears
Re: Why so many "what if's" and no actual races or video?

I didn't get many videos last summer, probably due to only getting to put about 1200 miles on it all year, and my wife absolutely will not video tape me racing because she hates racing. Only a couple times did I have a friend riding shotgun with a camera handy.


Heads/Cam/Intake/weight reduction 1996 LT1SS:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsT_Ryokwkw


408 stroker LS2 swapped '02 SS, friend's car that got the bump on me. Our second run was much much closer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myoMTG_TkpY
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Old Feb 15, 2011 | 11:18 AM
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Axle/Gears: 4.11
Re: Why so many "what if's" and no actual races or video?

What ifs= will never do it anyway.... Dreamers



If they really wanted to know youd line up and do it.

Last edited by cuisinartvette; Feb 15, 2011 at 11:32 AM.
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Old Feb 15, 2011 | 10:15 PM
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Re: Why so many "what if's" and no actual races or video?

Another reason that came to my mind just a second ago why there may not be a video section on this site is because the owners may not want to be threatened of a lawsuit or lawsuits due to "copyrighted" material on videos. That's a possibility and with so much pirating and copyrighted stuff being thrown around the web, the possibility of being sued or at least someone telling to remove stuff is possible and alot of hassle to deal with.
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Old Feb 22, 2011 | 06:29 PM
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From: Mustang-Town, USA (Northern, Virginia)
Car: 1990 TPI Camaro IROC-Z (G92code)
Engine: LB9 5.0 TPI (w/ G92 option)
Transmission: T5 manual 5-speed
Axle/Gears: GU6 option 3.42 posi
Re: (old clip of my IROC-Z in action)

He is an old clip of my '88 F-body for my 3rd gen brethren...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROA0fDELSBU

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Old Feb 22, 2011 | 06:32 PM
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From: Mustang-Town, USA (Northern, Virginia)
Car: 1990 TPI Camaro IROC-Z (G92code)
Engine: LB9 5.0 TPI (w/ G92 option)
Transmission: T5 manual 5-speed
Axle/Gears: GU6 option 3.42 posi
Re: (old clip of my IROC-Z in action)

BTW, you gear-heads with YouTube accounts... it would be much appreciated if yous could click the "thumbs up" like icon for me...??? Thanks fellas!
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