Can a 3rd gen 305 beat a new mustang V-6?
Muscle Mustangs @ Fast fords claim to have gotten a new V6 to run 14.9 with no filter/back seats or something like that....
They probably average mid/high 15's or so...
Stock LG4'S would have a problem with them....but I would think any decent running 305 TPI,that had decent gears from the factory, should be able to out run them...
They probably average mid/high 15's or so...
Stock LG4'S would have a problem with them....but I would think any decent running 305 TPI,that had decent gears from the factory, should be able to out run them...
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The G92 5spd 305 TPIs shouldn't have a problem, but the 305 autos and all stock TBI/LG4 cars would get beat. The 99+ v6s make 190hp and are in a slightly lighter car, and they average around a low/mid 15 for the 5spds. The 305 TPI auto might have a shot but the low output TBI/LG4 cars are dead meat. This is all assuming all cars are driven decently.
The pre-99 v6s only make like 150hp and should be in the range of TBI/LG4 cars, meaning 16.0+ 1/4 times.
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The pre-99 v6s only make like 150hp and should be in the range of TBI/LG4 cars, meaning 16.0+ 1/4 times.
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I agree, a 99+ V6 should be able to outrun all but an HO 305. They've got me beat by 20 HP from the factory, plus I'm guessing the smaller engine isn't as heavy. Finally the Ford V6 is almost as good as GM's newer 3800 series 2. Now a 98 or older, thats an easy kill speaking from expereince. If i can beat one anyone can! S'ok though, once the gears go on it should start getting interesting.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by 5.0s r Slow:
I was just wondering if a #rd gen 305 could take a new mustang V-6 piece of ****?</font>
I was just wondering if a #rd gen 305 could take a new mustang V-6 piece of ****?</font>
I just beat two of them tonight. My 89 305 RS with all stock still beat that damn V6 into the ground. Although I had one person, these two cars where carrying their buds. But still I was ahead.
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I used to drive around in my buds 96 V6. that thing was slow. I was able to beat it in my 1.3L rx7. I have a friend driving a 92RS v6 and he is not far behind me for speed.
I would think you should kick his *** as long at it is not a 99 or newer those things have a little more power
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I would think you should kick his *** as long at it is not a 99 or newer those things have a little more power
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by unknown_host:
hehe check your name man. mustangs are really 4.9 liters, new ones are 4.6 liters, and who cares what v6's are. you are raggin on 305's is what i am gettin at by your name. change it before you get too many posts on there.
Originally posted by 5.0s r Slow:
I was just wondering if a #rd gen 305 could take a new mustang V-6 piece of ****?</font>
I was just wondering if a #rd gen 305 could take a new mustang V-6 piece of ****?</font>
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by unknown_host:
hehe check your name man. mustangs are really 4.9 liters, new ones are 4.6 liters, and who cares what v6's are. you are raggin on 305's is what i am gettin at by your name. change it before you get too many posts on there.
Originally posted by 5.0s r Slow:
I was just wondering if a #rd gen 305 could take a new mustang V-6 piece of ****?</font>
I was just wondering if a #rd gen 305 could take a new mustang V-6 piece of ****?</font>
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Why are you guys trippen over v6 rustangs? Motortrend: 99 v6 mustang convertable 5-speed, 16.5 at 85. I've whooped my share of those pieces of junk.
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Convertable is heavier...and probably not geared to well either.
Plus car mags like Motortrend,Car and Driver,ect...couldn't drive to save there a$$. Half of those mags can barely get an LS1 into the 13's.
Go to the track to see what cars are really running.
Plus car mags like Motortrend,Car and Driver,ect...couldn't drive to save there a$$. Half of those mags can barely get an LS1 into the 13's.
Go to the track to see what cars are really running.
LG4 WILL have a problem
LO3(unless driven by a damn good stick driver) WILL have a problem
LB9 wont,and a 5-speed LB9 driven by a good shifter,will anally rape a V6 Stang
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LO3(unless driven by a damn good stick driver) WILL have a problem
LB9 wont,and a 5-speed LB9 driven by a good shifter,will anally rape a V6 Stang
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Hmm.... ones I ran got murdered by my 2.8 5 spd RS before it died, may it rest in peace, it was stock with the exception of a cherry bomb muffler, sounded like *** at high rpm, but somehow, dont ask me how but that thing pulled to 7k, I left the light at 4k and never looked back, kid wouldnt believe me that i only had a 2.8 the next day.
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Z28racer:
Hmm.... ones I ran got murdered by my 2.8 5 spd RS before it died, may it rest in peace, it was stock with the exception of a cherry bomb muffler, sounded like *** at high rpm, but somehow, dont ask me how but that thing pulled to 7k, I left the light at 4k and never looked back, kid wouldnt believe me that i only had a 2.8 the next day. </font>
Hmm.... ones I ran got murdered by my 2.8 5 spd RS before it died, may it rest in peace, it was stock with the exception of a cherry bomb muffler, sounded like *** at high rpm, but somehow, dont ask me how but that thing pulled to 7k, I left the light at 4k and never looked back, kid wouldnt believe me that i only had a 2.8 the next day. </font>
a.) my 305TPI wont pull past 5k stock,and i breathe alot better than a stock 2.8
b.) 2.8's make most of their power in the top end.frankly,a 2.8 5-speed that pulled to 7k would be a mid 15 second car..AND THEY'RE NOT....
it really upsets me to see F-body owners stretch the truth,and what bothers me more,is that some will believe it...
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I've totally spanked some new v6 'stangs with my '84 L69 trans am,those guys should know a v6 stang is nothing to dance with...
I also patroled appropriatly with my '93 3000 GT sl,this also is not a car to brag about but with the power/econ switch set to power (auto trans) OD & AC off,that little monster winds up to 7k and goes right back at it in the next gear,drilling past that loser (a sorry a$$ v6 stang driver try'n too be hard)with no remorse,handled much more solid too. v6 stang drivers,GO HOME!!
I found I '98 SVT Cobra for $18,900 w/60k on it,great car,I would have bought it if I could afford it. if you've never test driven one,don't say a word to me! just further proof that there is no exuse for spending $20k on a v6 'stang!!
I also patroled appropriatly with my '93 3000 GT sl,this also is not a car to brag about but with the power/econ switch set to power (auto trans) OD & AC off,that little monster winds up to 7k and goes right back at it in the next gear,drilling past that loser (a sorry a$$ v6 stang driver try'n too be hard)with no remorse,handled much more solid too. v6 stang drivers,GO HOME!!
I found I '98 SVT Cobra for $18,900 w/60k on it,great car,I would have bought it if I could afford it. if you've never test driven one,don't say a word to me! just further proof that there is no exuse for spending $20k on a v6 'stang!!
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