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Old 12-11-2001, 04:13 PM
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85 Corvette vs 89 Mustang

I know it's not a third gen f-body, but if I'm not mistaken it has the same motor as lots of third gens.
Who should win?

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350, auto, K&N, and exhaust.

I'm pretty sure my car will stand a chance, but correct me if I'm wrong.
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He has the 350t.p.i.
he will smoke you


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Old 12-11-2001, 04:59 PM
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What should the '85 Vette be running in the quarter. I'm expecting mid-low 14s out of mine.
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Im not a expert but with k@n and such he is proablly gonna take you after 35 mph

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85-iroc
1 of 85,ooo or so
superunleaded gas
mods include:K@n stickers
octan boost<<autozone>>
removal of floor mats for less weight
Future mods
More stickers
mothballs
best time est.
6.8@210 m.p.h
392 kills
losses
nhra funny car
747 jet..it was nose to nose
Smoking Vipers
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Old 12-11-2001, 05:25 PM
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Engine: 305 TPI going to LT1
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i would say you will probably beat him
85 vettes weren't speed machines by any means. wasn't it the same 350 TPI that was finally offered in the f-bodies a couple years later
i would put him at about a mid 14
with your gears, headers, and exhaust you should do very well if you don't beat him
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Your probably going to loose. My best friend has an 88 Mustang LX 5.0 5 speed with a built tranny, exhaust and some other little stuff. His best run was a 14.4xx he raced an 86 or so vette 350 auto which was stock aside from a couple little things and he lost every time he tried. C4 vette's are fast, light, launch real hard, and have better suspension than mustangs and camaros in the 80's (hence the price difference). I would still race him plus if you loose its no big deal its a vette its not like too many people would be counting on you to win anyways

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Old 12-11-2001, 05:34 PM
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Thanks for the input. I've heard that those cars are high 14 to low 15 second cars and that is why I thought it might be a good race. I hopr the kid gets it from his dad soon so we can run.
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How much do those things weight??

I remember about 2 years ago I was driving on the highway when an 80's C4 vette Convertible pulled next to me. I looked over and saw a guy around 50 years old looking over at me grinning. So I nailed it and so did he and surprisingly I put about a carlenght on him before I shut down.

What are the HP ratings for these cars in the 80's?

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theres a dude at my work who thinks he is a mechanic"works in the brake and oil change area"LOL.Anyways to stay on subject..he has pumped so much money in his LX..his best time adjusted is mid 15s...LOL



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Old 12-11-2001, 09:43 PM
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Ok, I'm probably going to get flamed for this, but I raced 2 different 80's vettes in my old stang(best ET of 14.2@98: K&N + free mods + glasspack mufflers) and to tell you the truth, it wasn't much of a race. I don't know what they should run, but I pulled both of them hard from the start and just kept on pulling through 3rd gear at 115 mph where there was no sense in continuing.

Don't remember if I ever raced one from a roll, but my best guess is that you'd still pull on them.

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Old 12-11-2001, 09:48 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by 12sMustang:
Ok, I'm probably going to get flamed for this, but I raced 2 different 80's vettes in my old stang(best ET of 14.2@98: K&N + free mods + glasspack mufflers) and to tell you the truth, it wasn't much of a race. I don't know what they should run, but I pulled both of them hard from the start and just kept on pulling through 3rd gear at 115 mph where there was no sense in continuing.

Don't remember if I ever raced one from a roll, but my best guess is that you'd still pull on them.

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no flames here..I absolutely agree with you. That stang is going to make the vette look pretty silly. Some guy in the town that I work in has a 87 vette 350 TPI and it has headers,catback exhaust and K&n's and I've made him look pretty dam silly a couple times driving around town. My money would be on the stang all the way.



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Old 12-11-2001, 10:00 PM
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I agree...with that converter and the 3.73's you're going to put the vette to shame. People don't realize how big of a difference gears/converter make on an AOD Mustang. You're making more horsepower and weigh less than my convertible did.

Just out of curiosity, how are you getting any traction from your setup? My 'vert with 3.73's and a 2400 stall converter was useless on street tires and that was with a full drag suspension on a bone stock motor. With warmed up Nittos, however, it was a diff. story

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Old 12-12-2001, 02:08 PM
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I don't know yet. I just ordered the converter, but will have it by the time the race happens. It spins pretty bad with just the gears, and 245/45/R17 Falken tires. By the way the tires SUCK, my 215/60/R15 Goodyaesr with 35,000 on them hooked better.

Which drag radial is better for street racing, Nitto, or BFGoodrich.
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The Nitto will last longer. I've got a source on them where I get them for $100 a piece so I'll stick with them even though the BFG's hook harder. If you're interested in a non-drag radial, you can't beat the pep boys futuras. They hook the best out of any real street radial I've used.

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Old 12-12-2001, 04:37 PM
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my friend has an 85 vette. that year they still had the iron heads untill 86 or 87 i think. yes its quick, but i still think a good running 5.0 will keep up with it. the main thing he has going against you is the weight advantage of a fiberglass car. like someone else said, if you get beat, you just say " i didnt pay 40,000 for mine!"

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What weight advantage? I may be wrong, but I'd bet that the LX stangs had a weight advantage on the Vette, and I'd imagine the Vette weighs around the same as a GT. That's speculation, but how much do vette's weigh?
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If I get beat there wont be an excuse, except his car is faster. I thought the Corvettes weighed like 3300-3500 lbs or something near there.

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well dont quote me on this, but i think c4 vettes only weigh like 3100lbs. they arent very heavy, but i may be confusing those #s with the new ones, someone back me up on that. anyhow, i hope the 5.0 smokes that vette. yah i am a chevy guy, but i hate corvettes with a passion. most of them are ugly and owned by old farts that dont drive em. it pisses me off that GM alway discontinued stuff that was fast just becasue the vette sucked. aka buick grand national, TTA, cyclone, typhoon. GM makes somethin cool and then when it beats their precious little vette they put the kabosh on it and it think that is crap. they shouldnt quit makin a fast car just because corvettes are junk. yah i know this will rile some folks but i just dont like corvettes and i would pay to see a smooth 5.0 smoke a vette, that would make my day. i must admit however, that corvettes can be cool. when modified properly, i think they are smooth. but no one mods them. oh well i am done rantin about corvettes now, they arent worth the energy it takes to write about them.
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I'd have to say the 5.0 would weigh less or about the same as the vette but I'd be leaning towards less cause my friend's 93 anniversary vette convertible weighs 3800 lbs.Figure in a couple hundred pounds since it's not a vert and that would still make it heavier than a lx stang.



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Old 12-13-2001, 01:32 AM
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Carpoint.com says an 88 vette weighs 3229 pounds. I hope this can help...

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I currently own a 89 TPI 350 vette, and mine runs 13.6 at 101mph with just an adjustable regulator, K&N, and an open air filter lid. Dont you think the vette would be lighter with only 2 seats and a body made of fiberglass? Every mustang ive ever raced, modified or not, i whupped up on, even have 2 DOHC cobra kills. Dont count out corvettes in stoplight wars, if mine has responded this good to less than $300 in mods, others can too. And theyre not that expensive, i paid 13500 for mine with 37000 original miles. One final note, theyre not just for old people, im 23.
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If the 5.0 LX is running high-mid 13's i'd say you have the vette, as much as i hate to admit it.... My vette turns mid-low 14's but i don't have a slush box either. If its just a stoplight war then it gets interesting because that L98 vette has a ton on the low-end and it'll get to 60 damn quick (and the 1320 not so quick)...i think the 0-60 stock for even an auto vette in that year is right around 6. I got beat by a sleaper 5.0 HB by a car or so cuz i lost traction.

he main thing he has going against you is the weight advantage of a fiberglass car. like someone else said, if you get beat, you just say " i didnt pay 40,000 for mine!"
Actually i paid 3500 for mine (albeit it was someone i knew)

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