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Old 07-12-2018, 12:12 PM   #1  
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Fastest cornering speeds

I've got an '88 TA WS6, stock other than SFCs, and I have taken some real tight highway clover-leaves at 60+ mph and the car shrugs it off like nothing. It handles better than any other old american car I know, and Car and Driver named the Camaro/Firebird the best handling domestic car back in the 80s, but what are it's actual limits? Anyone pushed it too far in a dry corner?
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I'm like you...same car...'88 T/A WS6...and I have not pushed it hard enough to find the limits on the street. Really fun car. Look forward to seeing some other's thoughts on this.
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I haven't pushed the limit of losing control, well maybe once but that was back in '88 and another story. The difference between my '86 back in the day and my '87 now is the difference between 18" wheels and 16" stock wheels. The suspension on my '87 is stiffer with little tire side wall flex, subframe connectors and strut tower brace, aftermarket springs, all of which we didn't have in 1986, so now with dry pavement a posted 30 mph corner is now a 60 mph corner as long as it's not a blind corner. But even back in 1986 my Camaro was still a fun car to drive, that's why i bought another one. As for your question, has anyone ever pushed it too far? I would say yes, but i wouldn't want to see the damage.

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Re: Fastest cornering speeds

When you exceed the limitations in a thirdgen, generally the front end will push. In other words, it'll plow ahead instead of turning. It's possible to lose traction with the back tires, in which case the back end can come around, but that is fairly controllable, to a point.
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Re: Fastest cornering speeds

they're not bad for what they are, but let's not kid ourselves. On a track even today's hatchback's will turn tighter and faster than a stock thirdgen.

My old trans am was running SFC's, koni's, MOOG springs, graphite/ poly bushes and C6 vette wheels with michelin/ pirelli tyres and my brother's stock E46 325i was faster in the corners. Sure, I'm pretty much in the laugh-out-loud band for driving talent, but so is my brother.

Yep they tend to plow/ understeer in the dry but can spin / snap oversteer pretty aggressively in the wet
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To the OP. On the OEM spec alignment the car pushes lots. If you've never driven a modern sports car (even those wrong wheel drive rice burners) then you would think so. The level of chassis communication to the driver with Todays cars is simply incredible.

An older third gen feels like a dump truck in comparison. No matter how much lateral grip it has.

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they're not bad for what they are, but let's not kid ourselves. On a track even today's hatchback's will turn tighter and faster than a stock thirdgen.

My old trans am was running SFC's, koni's, MOOG springs, graphite/ poly bushes and C6 vette wheels with michelin/ pirelli tyres and my brother's stock E46 325i was faster in the corners. Sure, I'm pretty much in the laugh-out-loud band for driving talent, but so is my brother.

Yep they tend to plow/ understeer in the dry but can spin / snap oversteer pretty aggressively in the wet
As an owner of one of those new hatches, and at the risk of being branded a traitor, I will say the Focus RS is lightyears ahead of EVERY SINGLE thirdgen ever built. TTA, and Firehawk included.

Its supercar performance at economy car pricing.
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