Check it out. Borrowed these links from various sites...
LS2 6.0 400hp 6-speed independent rear end uhmm.... where do I get in line?
http://imageevent.com/face440/camaro
http://videos.streetfire.net/Player....0070B432F3&p=0
LS2 6.0 400hp 6-speed independent rear end uhmm.... where do I get in line?
http://imageevent.com/face440/camaro
http://videos.streetfire.net/Player....0070B432F3&p=0
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That is really really really good news, but...
I dont really like the one that their proposing at first glance anyway. From a design standpoint it has a couple really awkward angles. (I have no idea whats going on with that rear quarter.) And I would want Chevrolet to actually be innovative, and not just follow suite with Ford and Dodge are doing. That low roofline and long hood look even more exagerated than the Charger/Magnum, which I find really hard to drive. I dont know the pricepoint difference, but if it has all the features of the Corvette, but is bigger, heavier and no more practical, I would buy the Vette. I would have preferred seeing a smaller 3 door coupe, like the RX8 but better looking with a real engines. I think that would gain traction with the people that cant afford the CTS-V but want an american sport sedan.
Maybe Ive been waiting so long for this that anything would have let me down. I am warming up to it the more I look at the pictures.
I dont really like the one that their proposing at first glance anyway. From a design standpoint it has a couple really awkward angles. (I have no idea whats going on with that rear quarter.) And I would want Chevrolet to actually be innovative, and not just follow suite with Ford and Dodge are doing. That low roofline and long hood look even more exagerated than the Charger/Magnum, which I find really hard to drive. I dont know the pricepoint difference, but if it has all the features of the Corvette, but is bigger, heavier and no more practical, I would buy the Vette. I would have preferred seeing a smaller 3 door coupe, like the RX8 but better looking with a real engines. I think that would gain traction with the people that cant afford the CTS-V but want an american sport sedan.
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the Camaro Concept is intended to explore customer reaction to design and engineering elements that might lead to an all-new version of the Camaro.
I hope so. As a young guy I dont want the only selling feature of the 5th gen being "nestalgia."the Camaro Concept is intended to explore customer reaction to design and engineering elements that might lead to an all-new version of the Camaro.
Maybe Ive been waiting so long for this that anything would have let me down. I am warming up to it the more I look at the pictures.
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I really like it and I really want one. Make mine a bolero red Z28 with red interior. A dover white Z28 with red interior would do as well.
If I picture a modern Camaro in my mind's eye, that is what I see. It's retro without being a ripoff of an original design.
I hate that inlet at the leading edge of the hood. Who the hell thought that would be a good idea? If they wanted to be cute with the hood they should have put a flapper at the back of the cowl.
If I picture a modern Camaro in my mind's eye, that is what I see. It's retro without being a ripoff of an original design.
I hate that inlet at the leading edge of the hood. Who the hell thought that would be a good idea? If they wanted to be cute with the hood they should have put a flapper at the back of the cowl.
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I hate that inlet at the leading edge of the hood. Who the hell thought that would be a good idea?
They consulted David Hasselhoff......Originally posted by Acceld Z
I hate that inlet at the leading edge of the hood. Who the hell thought that would be a good idea?

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Maybe Knight Industries did the design
The interior looks, well, breakable. I'd rather that it wasn't full of gadgets.

The interior looks, well, breakable. I'd rather that it wasn't full of gadgets.
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I love those interior renderings... I wish I could do that... damn! Nice link.
I think they did a great job on the exterior... almost exactly what I had in mind. Concept cars always look a little strange to me... but hopefully if decide to build it (I hope they do!) they will fine tune the lines and wheel design so it doesn't look quite as heavy and bloated.
The interior is a different story... that interior concept does nothing for me at all... I understand they were trying to go for the minimalistic look of the '67 camaro interior with only two large gauges... but IMO it looks way to futuristic and not especially practical. I don't want to be looking down at the center console to check my fuel or water temp.. taking your eyes that far off the road would be scary. I also think the general design of the thin rectangular analog gauges in the center console is just for appearance. A guage with a sweep that small is practically useless. The good thing is it will most likely come with HUD... so it won't really matter.... I love the HUD on my GTP... it's one of my favourite things about the car.
Just my .02
The interior is a different story... that interior concept does nothing for me at all... I understand they were trying to go for the minimalistic look of the '67 camaro interior with only two large gauges... but IMO it looks way to futuristic and not especially practical. I don't want to be looking down at the center console to check my fuel or water temp.. taking your eyes that far off the road would be scary. I also think the general design of the thin rectangular analog gauges in the center console is just for appearance. A guage with a sweep that small is practically useless. The good thing is it will most likely come with HUD... so it won't really matter.... I love the HUD on my GTP... it's one of my favourite things about the car.
Just my .02
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The interior is a different story... that interior concept does nothing for me at all... it looks way to futuristic and not especially practical. I don't want to be looking down at the center console to check my fuel or water temp... taking your eyes that far off the road would be scary. I guess it will most likely come with HUD... so it won't really matter.
Just my .02
Amen. They went after the Mustang interior and missed badly.Originally posted by johnyIROC
The interior is a different story... that interior concept does nothing for me at all... it looks way to futuristic and not especially practical. I don't want to be looking down at the center console to check my fuel or water temp... taking your eyes that far off the road would be scary. I guess it will most likely come with HUD... so it won't really matter.
Just my .02
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BARF!
You guys can have it, I'll be in the Challenger line.
You guys can have it, I'll be in the Challenger line.
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Yeah, can't say as I like it too much myself.
Keep in mind... this is just the concept version. If they make it the production version should be more practical and hopefully not as bloated... I really do like the overall package and if they aren't coming out until 2009 I could be in the market for one.... the only major problem is anyone who is in the market for one of those would probably step up to the new vette because it is just unreal.
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If I was going to spend $40K or so on a car I'd just build one of these. Plain aluminum interior and a few guages is all that's needed..lol
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We already have 1 barely streetable car... the new camaro is supposed to have displacement on demand and be able to pull 30MPG HWY.. but yeah if you are looking only for all out performance this would probably not be the right car.Originally posted by George
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BARF!
You guys can have it, I'll be in the Challenger line.
You'd better get used to standing in line waiting for that Challenger. If it's like anything else they build, it'll be taking extended leaves of absence from drivability at the dealership Originally posted by Cruz'N Bruz'R
BARF!
You guys can have it, I'll be in the Challenger line.

That and it will require NASA engineers to modify.
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That and it will require NASA engineers to modify.
That's the problem with all of them now - no user servicable parts inside.Originally posted by Acceld Z
That and it will require NASA engineers to modify.
I'd rather just have a decent truck for a daily and some kind of race car or at least an older non-emissions car to have fun with.
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We already have 1 barely streetable car... the new camaro is supposed to have displacement on demand and be able to pull 30MPG HWY.. but yeah if you are looking only for all out performance this would probably not be the right car.
I bet you with the same engine, or even any EFI small block that the Shelby could pull great highway milage. Cuts through the wind Originally posted by johnyIROC
We already have 1 barely streetable car... the new camaro is supposed to have displacement on demand and be able to pull 30MPG HWY.. but yeah if you are looking only for all out performance this would probably not be the right car.

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You'd better get used to standing in line waiting for that Challenger. If it's like anything else they build, it'll be taking extended leaves of absence from drivability at the dealership
That and it will require NASA engineers to modify.
Maybe, but I think you got the worst possible problem vehicle that they could put out. I beat the crap out of mine, and no problem so far.Originally posted by Acceld Z
You'd better get used to standing in line waiting for that Challenger. If it's like anything else they build, it'll be taking extended leaves of absence from drivability at the dealership

That and it will require NASA engineers to modify.
Maybe it's because I really haven't touched it yet

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Maybe, but I think you got the worst possible problem vehicle that they could put out. I beat the crap out of mine, and no problem so far.
Maybe it's because I really haven't touched it yet
You mean other than the balljoints and transmission not being able to move the truck after a sitting for a few daysOriginally posted by Cruz'N Bruz'R
Maybe, but I think you got the worst possible problem vehicle that they could put out. I beat the crap out of mine, and no problem so far.
Maybe it's because I really haven't touched it yet
I beat on my truck and it broke. All the ****ing time.
My wife beat on it too, just in a different way.
I was referring more to the DCX service departments. They're terrible and getting worse. I wouldn't even want to try to get a Challenger serviced. They'd **** it up in all kinds of ways. You'd bring it in for an oil change and leave with a ECM flash that kills 40hp because some shmuck in Phoenix reported a little bit of "ping".
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You mean other than the balljoints and transmission not being able to move the truck after a sitting for a few days
I beat on my truck and it broke. All the ****ing time.
My wife beat on it too, just in a different way.
I was referring more to the DCX service departments. They're terrible and getting worse. I wouldn't even want to try to get a Challenger serviced. They'd **** it up in all kinds of ways. You'd bring it in for an oil change and leave with a ECM flash that kills 40hp because some shmuck in Phoenix reported a little bit of "ping".
Originally posted by Acceld Z
You mean other than the balljoints and transmission not being able to move the truck after a sitting for a few days
I beat on my truck and it broke. All the ****ing time.
My wife beat on it too, just in a different way.
I was referring more to the DCX service departments. They're terrible and getting worse. I wouldn't even want to try to get a Challenger serviced. They'd **** it up in all kinds of ways. You'd bring it in for an oil change and leave with a ECM flash that kills 40hp because some shmuck in Phoenix reported a little bit of "ping".
Just to toss in , I would be affraid to buy anythngi new from Dodge , we know a guy that has the new magnum that has been more in the service shop than on the road
. All electrical stuff too.Supreme Member
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You mean other than the balljoints and transmission not being able to move the truck after a sitting for a few days
I beat on my truck and it broke. All the ****ing time.
My wife beat on it too, just in a different way.
I was referring more to the DCX service departments. They're terrible and getting worse. I wouldn't even want to try to get a Challenger serviced. They'd **** it up in all kinds of ways. You'd bring it in for an oil change and leave with a ECM flash that kills 40hp because some shmuck in Phoenix reported a little bit of "ping".
hehe, thanks for reminding me, i forgot about the balljoints.Originally posted by Acceld Z
You mean other than the balljoints and transmission not being able to move the truck after a sitting for a few days
I beat on my truck and it broke. All the ****ing time.
My wife beat on it too, just in a different way.
I was referring more to the DCX service departments. They're terrible and getting worse. I wouldn't even want to try to get a Challenger serviced. They'd **** it up in all kinds of ways. You'd bring it in for an oil change and leave with a ECM flash that kills 40hp because some shmuck in Phoenix reported a little bit of "ping".
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Just to toss in , I would be affraid to buy anythngi new from Dodge , we know a guy that has the new magnum that has been more in the service shop than on the road
. All electrical stuff too.
My Dakota R/T had started having weird electronic problems about a month before we got rid of it. It was the nail in the coffin.Originally posted by D's89IROCZ
Just to toss in , I would be affraid to buy anythngi new from Dodge , we know a guy that has the new magnum that has been more in the service shop than on the road
. All electrical stuff too. DCX takes a well engineered structure and drapes garbage over it. It's a good thing they have old Benz stuff to start with.
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My Dakota R/T had started having weird electronic problems about a month before we got rid of it. It was the nail in the coffin.
DCX takes a well engineered structure and drapes garbage over it. It's a good thing they have old Benz stuff to start with.
Originally posted by Acceld Z
My Dakota R/T had started having weird electronic problems about a month before we got rid of it. It was the nail in the coffin.
DCX takes a well engineered structure and drapes garbage over it. It's a good thing they have old Benz stuff to start with.
AKKKKK I worked with a guy ...same truck ...same thing .
. They really have no clue abotu fuel managment aswell. They have the worst milage around . My unlce sold his Dodge because of it ( and he ain;t hurtin for cash and has owned all kinds of sports cars) ...sorry to drift off of topic
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My Dakota R/T had started having weird electronic problems about a month before we got rid of it. It was the nail in the coffin.
Originally posted by Acceld Z
My Dakota R/T had started having weird electronic problems about a month before we got rid of it. It was the nail in the coffin.
Uhhhh - that wouldn't happen to be the truck that Dave is driving around, is it?
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Uhhhh - that wouldn't happen to be the truck that Dave is driving around, is it?
No, Dave picked his up after I got mine.Originally posted by Hylton
Uhhhh - that wouldn't happen to be the truck that Dave is driving around, is it?
Dave's R/T doesn't do anyhting really weird other than chew tires off of both ends of the truck. He's responsible for one end though

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Yeah, I'm guilty of that, but those Kumho's put up such a good fight, I bought 4 more.
And the truck sucks back the gas, but's it's quicker than either of my thirdgen's were when i got them.
And if I remember correctly, I mentioned the R/T's first, but you always loved the Lightnings. So there.
And now, I guess I'll have to go get me a turbo buick of the GN type to keep with our tradition.
And the truck sucks back the gas, but's it's quicker than either of my thirdgen's were when i got them.
And if I remember correctly, I mentioned the R/T's first, but you always loved the Lightnings. So there.
And now, I guess I'll have to go get me a turbo buick of the GN type to keep with our tradition.
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Yeah, I'm guilty of that, but those Kumho's put up such a good fight, I bought 4 more.
And the truck sucks back the gas, but's it's quicker than either of my thirdgen's were when i got them.
And if I remember correctly, I mentioned the R/T's first, but you always loved the Lightnings. So there.
And now, I guess I'll have to go get me a turbo buick of the GN type to keep with our tradition.
I couldn't afford a LightningOriginally posted by Cruz'N Bruz'R
Yeah, I'm guilty of that, but those Kumho's put up such a good fight, I bought 4 more.
And the truck sucks back the gas, but's it's quicker than either of my thirdgen's were when i got them.
And if I remember correctly, I mentioned the R/T's first, but you always loved the Lightnings. So there.
And now, I guess I'll have to go get me a turbo buick of the GN type to keep with our tradition.

GN prices aren't reasonable. Complete ****boxes start at $12,000. My car wasn't cheap and isn't the nicest but it would have been a hell of alot more if it was GN
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And now, I guess I'll have to go get me a turbo buick of the GN type to keep with our tradition.
Screw that. Lets put an LC2 into a 240 or somethingOriginally posted by Cruz'N Bruz'R
And now, I guess I'll have to go get me a turbo buick of the GN type to keep with our tradition.
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Actually, I've been trying to con the wife into letting me sell these 2 toys, and put an RB20DET in the car port.
No go so far.
No go so far.

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I like it. It could be improved especially with respect to the grill. It shore dont look very aerodynamic to me so I cant see it staying as is. The windshield is kinda low and I'm kinda tall. I drove a new Mustang a few weeks back and couldn't see any traffic light sunless I bent down which SUCKED. other than that the Mustang drove pretty weel. SOLID braking wow first time I could say tha about a Ford
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That's the problem with all of them now - no user servicable parts inside.
Actually... Now that I am into the LS1 thers are many many things that are far more serviceable thn conventional SBC's. Like practically all gaskets being void displacement so no replacing required. Simplified design on all mech parts making servicing or modding so quick and easy. Things like oiling system and tunability are waaaaaaay better than any previous offerings. The new Camaro will use a version of an LS series powerplant and I for one couldn't be more pleased. Great power, light weight and stellar mileage. Not to mention kick ars durabilityThat's the problem with all of them now - no user servicable parts inside.
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You all know of course that it's going to look something like this if and when it hits the streets:
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You all know of course that it's going to look something like this if and when it hits the streets:
Originally posted by George
You all know of course that it's going to look something like this if and when it hits the streets:

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That's one of the funniest things I have seen!!!
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BAHA!! thats a good one.You should get a job at GM.They'd love to have you designing for them
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Better look on the Wave then that silly looking concept!Originally Posted by George
You all know of course that it's going to look something like this if and when it hits the streets: Supreme Member
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GM will be Toyota soon and if the new Camaro gets built they'll probably call it the Tercel RS or something..lolOriginally Posted by Zedsled
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BAHA tercel RS! thats priceless.I'm sure it will be right up there with the Sunfire GTO.



