Ok.. I've yes, then no, then yes, then no.. etc... So does anyone know for sure if we are required by law to have a front licenece plate here in Ontario?

 

yes for sure you need a front plate. its over $100 too not have it. I fownd out the hard way

 

A definate yes on that one... in Ontario we are required to put the gay front plate on. In Nova Scotia, it is unnecessary...

 

thanks for the reply.. but booooo to the results.. oh well..

 

i went 3 years before being stopped. take your chances if you want.

 

I was thinking of changing my ground fx .. that why I was asking.. My current one has four nasty holes drilled for the licence plates (I've teken it off for pictures before and they look ugly). But since it dosnt matter about the holes that narrows down my ground effects search..

 

I'm taking my chances. Of course with my luck I will get burned for it...but the car looks so much better without it!

 

Yes you are required to have it on your car its $110 fine (speaking from experience) I even had mine in the front windshield but it has to be in the FACTORY mounting location.. The cop knows me and doesn't like me but I would think normally they wouldn't bug you unless they just don't like you and want to give you a ticket for something..

 

Karsten lives! Yeah, I figure if I get pulled over for anything else then he'll probably tack it on as an extra kick in the nuts. But unless he/she are bored, I can't see them pulling me over just for that. But you never know.

 

Yet another indication that my car came from Ontario or some place that requires the front license plate!! My front gfx has four holes in it (over the Camaro writing?? I guess that is what I could call it..hehehe) ..... Here in NFLD it is not required to have a front license plate.... neither does Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, or PEI... hummmmm....

hummm...I wonder if I am going to like what I find out about my car????!?!? hehehe... my luck is that it was totalled on the 401 in 1992...sat behind someone's house in Burlington, ON for 6 years under a tarp, someone fixed it up...then sold it to the Used Car Dealer down here!! HAHAHHAHAA

maybe I am being too negative ... :lala:

 

Not a for sure sign though buddy...I think all the front grills for Canadian cars originally came with the holes.

I'm worried about that too when I start my history search. I'm positive it's been in at least a small fender-bender at one point in time.

 

there was a post about two weeks ago on this topic. It goes like this... if your car doesn't have the dealer installed front plate option... I forget the RPO... then you can get away without a front plate. Problem is that you have to get busted and then go to court to prove it to the justice.

I've been nailed 3 times for not having a front plate... it's always because the cop couldn't charge me with anything else so he had to find something. Luckily I managed to get off all three times.

Ontario will likely have the front plates for a long time... the government is very good at wasting our money on useless extras

 

sleeper NO NO NO! mayby in the US, but different conutry different laws. we would not get off in court. if the RPO code was not there it would have left the dealer WITH a front plate no matter what.

 

actually I am from Ontario which is where I got the tickets

 

Then why does your location say " Clearwater, FL"???

 

I've had mine in the front window since I bought the car. I have never gotten a ticket yet. I always say that the bracket was damaged in an accident, and I'm waiting for it from the dealer.

 

I moved to Clearwater last year... I still look here every now and again to see what's up.

When I had my car painted I had them fill in the holes on the nose cone. When the cops asked why I had the plate in the front window (which is illegal) I told them that the body shop filled in the plate holes and I hadn't figured out a way to re-drill them yet. Most cops/judges know nothing about auto mechanics so they don't know what's involved in drilling.

 

As stated by everyone is is Illegal not to have the front license plate attached for an Ontario registered small passenger vehicle (car or truck).

I have had roughly 5 tickets in the last 3 years over this and am tired of 'fighting' the court system over it.

Quoting the Ontario Highway Traffic Act, 7, 1:

No person shall drive a motor vehicle on the highway unless,

(a) ...

(b) there are displayed on the vehicle, in the prescribed manner, number plates issued in accordance with the regulations showing the number of the permit issued for the vehicle; and

(c) ...


-The last time I went to court over this, I had gathered information from 3 MOT offices- two 'licensing' offices- i.e. franchises where you renew you plates and such- and the main MOT building at Keele and the 401 in Toronto. None could provide me with the Act's "prescribed manner" for affixing second (front) plate, or that there was in fact a requirement for 2 plates- they all believed this was the case- but had no 'paper' to back it up.

With this little bit of info, I went off to court and explained that apparently there was no "prescribed manner" for a plate not required to have the current registration information (i.e. renewal sticker) on it, and therefore the charge was not valid. Managed to **** off the crown attorney rather nicely with this when he stated "What! Am I expected to describe to the defendant the manner in which he should attach his license plates your honour?"- I almost blurted out "Yes, you F#$@"- but the judge took it upon himself to lay it all out for me under the concept of "accepted tradition":

Irrelevant if a fixture or bracket to attach the front license plate, factory equipped or not, a front license plate must be attached to the front-most part of the vehicle or a distance that could be reasonably accepted as such as long as it did not cover any lights or cause some sort of safety hazard. The judge went on to tell me that it could cover part or all of the grill, it could hang below the bumper or above it, it could be attached anywhere on the front, left or right or centre- but not any more that 6" back from the front-most part of the car (the 'reasonable distance) and must be pointing straight ahead so as to be readable from immediately in front of the vehicle.

And with this, my $110.00 fine was upheld.

I am tired of paying these stupid fines so I guess I'll be cutting up the front end to attach one- "Da Man" wins.

Just as a note: Only 13 US States have front-license plate requirements and they are only 'citation' offenses the first time they are picked up. I don't know how many province have front license plate restrictions, but it is no more than 7: Newfoundland, Alberta and Quebec do not have them.

The point of this particular "tradition" of law is A) easy money for the police departments and province
B) an 'irritation' offense- i.e. when you are pulled over for looking at a police officer the wrong way and there's absolutely nothing else you can be issued a ticket over and no reason for them to have any 'reasonable grounds for suspicion' on a greater crime- this is an 'easy' one for them and they can feel good about themselves keeping all those terrible, horrific, no front license-platers off the roads.

 

wow, thanks for all the info Eric2ndGen. Too bad the crown didn't let you away with your technicality..