Interesting Concept
Interesting Concept
I wonder if anyone has tried to make an LS1 style intake for a Gen I block and heads? I mean, the Mini-Ram design was based off the LT1 intake, maybe someone could or has tried to make something with the LS1 style in mind. Anyone up for trying it out
Originally posted by PONTIMANIAC 90
fine idea, but where would you stick the disributor?
fine idea, but where would you stick the disributor?
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If you mean "ls1 intake" in the sense of using a plastic intake manifold, then I would say that it hasn't happened because there's no need for it to happen, and I don't know what sort of unusual stresses may be placed upon the block and heads by using a plastic intake instead of an aluminum one.
If you were referring to an intake with runners that had a similar length an diameter, that opens another discussion entirely. The LS1's intake manifold was designed to fit the needs of the LS1 heads, which are completely different than the SBC heads. Their intake runners are a tall "cathedral" type of runner. Narrow width with a very tall height. This promotes great flow as well as great velocity. The intake is manufactured to provide the airflow needs for those heads. Because a SBC has a completely different head intake design, the intake manifold needs to reflect those unique needs.
If you were referring to an intake with runners that had a similar length an diameter, that opens another discussion entirely. The LS1's intake manifold was designed to fit the needs of the LS1 heads, which are completely different than the SBC heads. Their intake runners are a tall "cathedral" type of runner. Narrow width with a very tall height. This promotes great flow as well as great velocity. The intake is manufactured to provide the airflow needs for those heads. Because a SBC has a completely different head intake design, the intake manifold needs to reflect those unique needs.
I just mean an LS1 style intake machined or fabricated from scratch that fits our engines and has a distributor hole for it. The LS1 intakes would give an engine the strong low end torque response because the runners "those swirls" are on the inside of the intake instead of the outside, thus allowing air to be tumbled then rammed into the engine and giving a 7000 rpm rev capability and a lot of power! It'd be interesting, but you couldn't take an LS1 intake and just drill on it and make it fit a Gen I block, not necessarily our stock heads, but I'm sure there are aftermarkets that flow near to or just as well as LS1 heads if not better. This requires some machine shop capabilities and maybe even a foundry LOL.
Umm. I know my memory isn't all that great any more, but wasn't that first done on a small block in 1957? Ed Cole and Zoras Duntov called it the Ram Jet Injection system. If I remember, it worked pretty well, but I'm not positive since it was pretty hard to see it that well from the tail light end of the car...
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Originally posted by madmax
Like I said above (under a different username) no, you cant. Period. Impossible.
Like I said above (under a different username) no, you cant. Period. Impossible.
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I just mean an LS1 style intake

You can't position the runners in any type of similar manner because of the I-E-E-I-I-E-E-I arrangement of the small block vs. the I-E-I-E-I-E-I-E arrangement of the LS1.
If you mean that you want to build an intake that has the runners above the plenum area, knock yourself out. Because of the maze that the air will have to run through, not only will you have an amazingly complex and expensive intake, I seriously doubt that you'll equal the performance of a much simpler design. The head angle and runner profile of the LS1 lends itself nicely to this sort of design. For the plenum to be on top and still have a somewhat straight airflow, the intake would be way too high to fit under any sort of stock hood. But on a small block with a conventional head angle and runner design, you just can't do it effectively.
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you design it to fit Gen I heads... Just an idea, you make it from scratch, what part of that are you people not getting??? I'm not saying take an LS1 intake and try to mahcine it, I'm saying make a brand new intake with crossover runners. This is pathetic
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You're a regular f*cking einstein. We get it just fine. Our point is that once you do all the bullsh*t you're talking about, how is it even remotely similar to an LS1 manifold?
Once you design one to work with the SBC heads, you have... oddly enough, a completely conventional intake manifold just like all the rest of the SBC manifolds.
The ONLY thing unique about the LS1 manifold is that the plenum is under the runners, and I already spent time typing a whole post about why that won't work on a SBC, but obviously you missed that.
Once you design one to work with the SBC heads, you have... oddly enough, a completely conventional intake manifold just like all the rest of the SBC manifolds.
The ONLY thing unique about the LS1 manifold is that the plenum is under the runners, and I already spent time typing a whole post about why that won't work on a SBC, but obviously you missed that.
Originally posted by Jim85IROC
You're a regular f*cking einstein. We get it just fine. Our point is that once you do all the bullsh*t you're talking about, how is it even remotely similar to an LS1 manifold?
Once you design one to work with the SBC heads, you have... oddly enough, a completely conventional intake manifold just like all the rest of the SBC manifolds.
The ONLY thing unique about the LS1 manifold is that the plenum is under the runners, and I already spent time typing a whole post about why that won't work on a SBC, but obviously you missed that.
You're a regular f*cking einstein. We get it just fine. Our point is that once you do all the bullsh*t you're talking about, how is it even remotely similar to an LS1 manifold?
Once you design one to work with the SBC heads, you have... oddly enough, a completely conventional intake manifold just like all the rest of the SBC manifolds.
The ONLY thing unique about the LS1 manifold is that the plenum is under the runners, and I already spent time typing a whole post about why that won't work on a SBC, but obviously you missed that.
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You're a class act. I wish this site had more people with your stellar comprehension skills.
There's a half dozen of us telling you in explicit detail why you're wasting your time trying to outsmart the last 50 years worth of engineers that designed intakes for the small block, but obviously you're smarter than all of us and all of them, so why don't you just go build the damn thing instead of spouting dumb sh*t?
There's a half dozen of us telling you in explicit detail why you're wasting your time trying to outsmart the last 50 years worth of engineers that designed intakes for the small block, but obviously you're smarter than all of us and all of them, so why don't you just go build the damn thing instead of spouting dumb sh*t?
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OK, this has gone from bad to worse.
For the record though, custom intakes are nothing new to the world of hot rodding. However, one thing you can be sure of when talking about such a piece. $$$$$$$$
You want to contract somebody to make a custom intake. Go right ahead. Hogan's makes some nice pieces, give 'em a ring. In the meantime, the rest of all will stick to the readily available stuff. More than enough intake designs out there to make ANY amount of power you want.
For the record though, custom intakes are nothing new to the world of hot rodding. However, one thing you can be sure of when talking about such a piece. $$$$$$$$
You want to contract somebody to make a custom intake. Go right ahead. Hogan's makes some nice pieces, give 'em a ring. In the meantime, the rest of all will stick to the readily available stuff. More than enough intake designs out there to make ANY amount of power you want.
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