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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 01:15 AM
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I'm thinking about switching to the holley stealth ram and was wondering a few things. The first thing is, can i get just the manifold and use all my parts that i have now, ie the sensors, fuel rails/injectors, throtle body, ect. If i can, where can i get just the manifold.
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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 07:32 AM
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You can re-use your injectors, throttle body, and sensors, except the EGR, as far as I know it doesnt not have one, but you cannot use your fuel rails. You can get the manifold and fuel rails from www.thunderracing.com Great prices, fast shipping, and they are an advertiser If you order the intake and fuel rail kit, you will get a $20 discount if you place the order on the web.
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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 03:18 PM
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yeah the fuel rails need to be difernet and holley stealth ram doesn't have a egr system. thats y its not street legal
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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 05:18 PM
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I ordered the HSR from Thunder Racing last week and it arrived yesterday. Manifold and fuel rail kit.
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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 06:33 PM
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Originally posted by wyclefsirocz
yeah the fuel rails need to be difernet and holley stealth ram doesn't have a egr system. thats y its not street legal

are visual under hood inspectors trained to look for that?
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Old Apr 9, 2003 | 08:05 PM
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i dunno,
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Old Apr 10, 2003 | 07:21 AM
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Originally posted by Trans_AM_88
are visual under hood inspectors trained to look for that?
I've had mine inspected in NJ twice now, never even popped the hood. They inspect visually for the cat being present, pressure-test the gas filler cap, and run it on the roller dyno while probing exhaust output.

If you're running a stock cam you may have trouble passing the NOx standard without EGR. Bigger cams w/ more overlap accomplish some amount of exhaust gas recirc at low and midrange RPMs, but stock cams generally have the lobes so far apart it doesn't happen.

The part I like is the braking force dyno test...they run the car onto four steel grates and nail the brakes, computer reports braking force at each wheel. This alerted me to a rear hydraulic pressure problem on my recent rear disc swap, the retailer had sent me the wrong proportioning valve. New valve, re-test, and it was on the money.
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Old Apr 10, 2003 | 07:50 AM
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Originally posted by kevinc

The part I like is the braking force dyno test...they run the car onto four steel grates and nail the brakes, computer reports braking force at each wheel. This alerted me to a rear hydraulic pressure problem on my recent rear disc swap, the retailer had sent me the wrong proportioning valve. New valve, re-test, and it was on the money.
Thats interesting. So they actually drive your car on a dyno to test the emissions. I have never had to deal with emission testing. Before it was done away with, I had old cars that were not required to take a test. Now, we don't test any cars!! Lucky me.
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Old Apr 10, 2003 | 09:33 AM
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Thats interesting. So they actually drive your car on a dyno to test the emissions. I have never had to deal with emission testing. Before it was done away with, I had old cars that were not required to take a test. Now, we don't test any cars!! Lucky me.
Yup, with the obscenely-high taxes in NJ they are very well funded to build in-ground roller dynos and whatnot. The fun part is they don't strap the car down, just use gravity to hold it in place while it's rolling. Back when I had regular TPI on it, mine would climb up the roller as the guy accelerated...if it grabbed concrete it would have launched.


I get to see how the HSR and speed density upgrades do this October, last emission test was w/ TPI and MAF. I've software tuned the snot out of it and have BLMs in spec so shouldn't be any different than before...we'll see.
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Old Apr 10, 2003 | 09:56 AM
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Originally posted by kevinc
Yup, with the obscenely-high taxes in NJ they are very well funded to build in-ground roller dynos and whatnot. The fun part is they don't strap the car down, just use gravity to hold it in place while it's rolling. Back when I had regular TPI on it, mine would climb up the roller as the guy accelerated...if it grabbed concrete it would have launched.


I get to see how the HSR and speed density upgrades do this October, last emission test was w/ TPI and MAF. I've software tuned the snot out of it and have BLMs in spec so shouldn't be any different than before...we'll see.
It would be really nice of them to get you some RWHP and TQ numbers while getting your emissions tested!!
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Old Apr 10, 2003 | 12:09 PM
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Originally posted by 92 zzz28
It would be really nice of them to get you some RWHP and TQ numbers while getting your emissions tested!!
No doubt, but w/ some of the chimps I've seen working there I wouldn't be comfy w/ them WOT'ing my car. Not saying everyone is that bad, but they scored a few real zeros in staffing.
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