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Old May 1, 2003 | 03:27 PM
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Car: 89 Pontiac GTA Trans Am
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i locked up my 350 tpi and this is what it true hell looks like....
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Old May 1, 2003 | 03:29 PM
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Old May 1, 2003 | 03:30 PM
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Old May 1, 2003 | 04:01 PM
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How did that happen?
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Old May 1, 2003 | 04:28 PM
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WoW i have seen a lot and let me tell you that is one of the best, or the worst depending how you look at it.
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Old May 1, 2003 | 06:39 PM
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holy **** what the hell happened?
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Old May 1, 2003 | 06:52 PM
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How many R's did it take to do this?
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Old May 1, 2003 | 06:59 PM
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Car: 89 Pontiac GTA Trans Am
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i had a small oil leak i "thought" i fixed but also cuz i like to really drive my car. i really dont mind it breaking except for the price to fix it cuz i like to work on it. i threw 4 rods and burned up a crank journal. now im going to build a 383 stroker with the block . ............by the way whats an "R"?
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Old May 1, 2003 | 07:06 PM
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R's is RPM's. Make sure you use ARP rod bolts on the 383.
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Old May 1, 2003 | 07:11 PM
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oh the rpms werent high at all i was driving home going 70 in overdrive so i guess that makes the rpm's around 2500-3000 rpm
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Old May 1, 2003 | 10:58 PM
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Make sure you get that block check out by a very competent machine shop or engine builder. With the damage to the rest of the rotating assembly I wouldn't be surprised if the block has some damage as well. It smoked a rod journal or main journal? Not trying to make your situation any worse, just telling you what I think.
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Old May 1, 2003 | 11:58 PM
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Throw that block away 2bolt mains arnt worth much for perfomance. Go find a nice 4bolt main so it can handle over 400 hp reliably.
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Old May 2, 2003 | 12:23 AM
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2 bolt blocks have seen 500 horse without breakage,

2 bolts will hold 450 in its sleep..

u should have the block gone through thoroughly
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Old May 2, 2003 | 12:36 PM
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Wow. Very nice. This gives you a nice excuse to build a new motor. I would say this was spinning at 7-8K or you ran out of oil...
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Old May 2, 2003 | 01:10 PM
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WOW!
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Old May 2, 2003 | 02:06 PM
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Car: 89 Pontiac GTA Trans Am
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this is the only damage the block got is the block still good?
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Old May 2, 2003 | 02:09 PM
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Car: 89 Pontiac GTA Trans Am
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heres a piston
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Old May 2, 2003 | 02:53 PM
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So you want to make a 383 out of that block. I'd strongly suggest another block. The longer stroke of a 383 will bring the piston even closer to that damaged area.
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Old May 2, 2003 | 03:49 PM
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I agree with rick and toss that scrap iron away. I wouldn't chance building a new motor on that block. And just to chime in...I've seen a two-bolt make 650 flywheel horse and run all day long. Much more and you do need a four bolt or have the machine shop install splayed four bolt caps on your two bolt block. especially since two bolts are a dime a dozen. Just my $.02.

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Old May 2, 2003 | 03:52 PM
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The fact that the rods let go like that, and that rods letting go are the most common failure mechanism are all the evidence a laymen should need to realize that the main caps are generally not the weak spot in a street 4" bore SBC.
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Old May 2, 2003 | 03:57 PM
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exactly the point I was trying to make. Just please make sure you get some good rods and arp bolts.

Chris
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Old May 2, 2003 | 09:09 PM
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That is impressive!

How'd the car act when she locked up?

Throw the *** end around?
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Old May 3, 2003 | 04:43 AM
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naw it just died and started rolling
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Old May 3, 2003 | 05:08 AM
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Man, I have seen this to often. As far as stroking that block, I would forget about that. However if you ever wanted to rebuild it as a 350 again, I would take it to a machinist and have him clean and mag it. Unless you clean it and see any cracks off the bat. I have seen a few times where when the engine throws or two it leaves obvious or hairline cracks in the cylinders walls.
Good luck with a rebuild!
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Old May 3, 2003 | 02:44 PM
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get a two bolt block with splayed caps, they are stonger than the 4-bolts. 4-bolt blocks are over-rated... but I still had to have one for myself :-D lol
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