ok this is another question for a friend of mine. I keep telling him to become a member but I guess he keeps putting it off. Anyway with that out. He's got a 91 z28 with the L98. It was an old police car. What is the difference between that and the regular Z28 if any. Also if there is a differnce what is the power rating difference? thanks

 

I thought the only difference was the b4c was just like the 1le cars with a/c, power was the same but I could be wrong

 

If it was a old Police car there is no difference except for RPO B4C which added some heavy duty parts such as a 140 amp Alternator, oil & tanny cooler. Power out put for the 350 TPI is the same. But again its a old Police car and they did have high miles and serve use. Not my choice for 3rd Gen car.

 

I thought that the b4c package was only applied to the RS package. Basically a Z-28 in RS clothing. If it's a Z-28 then it is nothing special, just a Z that was used by the po po.

 

Don't forget the shotgun holder mounted to the passenger floor....would make a good hillbilly car

 

The B4C was a package added to the RS. The exterior looked like a stock RS with the solid grille, plain hood and 16" rims.

I bought one back in 98 with 95k that was used as a Mass State Undercover car. I have had three with the 350TPI motor and that one ran the best out of them all.

If you have a chance to grab one I would be all over it! Just keep in mind when you go to insure the car you will be paying for a Z28 because that is what the VIN comes back as. So when I sold mine I changed the tags and sold it as a Z28!

 

in his car the shotgun holder was mounted to the drivers seat for some reason. thanks for the info. i wasn't sure on any thing so now that i know i car let him know. thanks again

 

They also have this cool plain rubber floor mat in them. It looks cool and is easy to clean since it's non absorbant. I'd like to put that in mine. Prob lighter weight too.

 

If its a true B4C it will have 1LE front brakes and the B4C RPO.

 

Wow, I said something similar about getting an LO5 out of a police vehicle on the TBI board, and they nearly had my head on a pike... Funny the difference in the forums.

 

I've owned 2 police cars, one an L05 and an LT1. Yes, they see use and get some miles put on them. I think this is countered then by the routine maintenance they receive. They have strict maintenance schedules that include rebuilds/replacements every xxx miles. Both of my cars had over 150k miles and ran GREAT. Not all police cars are "ragged out" and should be passed over.

 

Ha! Of the maybe 70+ some departments I've had contact with throughout the years, only 1 might live up to somthing close to that, and it's not even the whole department, just ONE PARK (5 cruisers) of the 50+ parks that make up ODNR. Also, if they know the car is going to auction in a few months, they normally ditch maintaince all together - assuming they had any reasonable maintainence in place to begin with.
Are you psychic, or do you just really - really like gambling, because I don't know of an auction that's lets you road test the cars. Sometimes they don't even let you start them. I can't see myself forking over a couple grand on a car that I can't drive around first, and that I know has a HIGH probability of having had a life of constant beating.

 

Then don't buy them from an auction, lots of private sellers within departments put them up for sale and are glad to let you test drive them. I would only buy a car at auction if it was incredibly cheap.

 

By the point you get done with that, you would have paid the same for a beat on ex cop car as you would have it's much more nicely treated civilian counterpart. If you even consider debating that with someone - there's no 16 year old kid that will do what has been done to patrol vehicle's on a routine basis, and if you somehow doubt that, go to your local police department and ask abouthow to get into their ride along program. That unit will automatically be eliminated from any high risk calls where vehicle abuse is at it's worst - but none the less, just on a couple traffic stops, you'll get a taste of what it is to try to get through traffic (WOT, BRAKE!, WOT, BRAKE!, WOT, BRAKE!), and have some ******* brake check the living **** out of you because he's "Startled" by the lights. Would you take your car over a 4-6 inch curb at 5-40 MPH time after time? Welcome to a stop light traffic stop program, where it would get done with 4-8 hours straight, day in and day out until the detail was over. I'd love to do that alignment! And that's 3 shifts a day, 365 days a year, for 2-6 years. Unless you are all-knowing, you have no idea which cars had it even worse, but I can promise you, even the detective cars go through more abuse in one buy-bust than you might put on your car after a whole week of autocrossing, assuming the suspect doesn't flee, in which case if the car makes it back in one peice - the officer did a good job. Who do I make the check out too again?

There is a similar dealer you might be refering to in the cleveland area (http://www.emergencyremarketing.com/current.htm). I like the third one down 175,000 miles, $4000! YESSSSS! 120,000 miles, only $5500 - what a steal! And that place is even cheaper than most ex-cop'er rides you will find on autotrader.com

I'm done with this thread, everyone has the right to make bad decisions for themselves as long as it doesn't affect me.

 

Geez, no need to get red in the face. I'm sorry I got good deals on my cars and they ran great.

 

What your hang up on Cop Cars?? Are you a Cop wanttobe??/

 

We beat the CRAP out of our patrol cars. Half of them have transmission problems, brake problems, misses, etc. On the outside, they look mint. Fresh paint, perfect lettering, etc. But as far as maintenence goes. HAR. I laugh at people that want to buy ex-patrol cars. It's just plain crazy.

-- Joe

 

Well, I'm sorry some of you guys had bad experiences, but my latest B4C car is running great, still strong, no smoke. The last B4C I had was also in great shape. Both around 100K miles and many years in service. I got my most recent one at the auction and I didnt get to test drive it prior to bidding. It was a patrol car, high speed pursuit camaro. Car was properly serviced its entire life (all drivetrain parts and brakes), and in fact has run on 92 octane gas its entire life. Thats alot better than some of the cars I've bought from private owners. You'd be supprised how many people dont properly maintain their cars. They usually forget about the tranny and rearend. If you win one of these B4C's at the auctions you can request the service record. They dont have to give you one but if you're nice you might get one. My only gripes with the B4C's is the police wiring.

 

A buddy of mine is a cop, and according to him, the correct term for a cop wannabe is a "holster sniffer". Lol.

 

Well, Lemme add something.

I think the B4C camaros, probes, intrepids, and everything else departments use are prolly beat on a LOT less than the crown vics. With the exception of cars detectives use. If it was a state police car, it prolly wasnt beat on much at all. (since it was prolly used for traffic enforcement, and not to respond to calls)

Another thing. A local dept around here has a few camaros. they are NOT B4C.. They were owned by drug dealers, and were taken over by the PD after a bust. That happens a lot too. The city I used to work for, has a few pickups, two honda civics, etc.

-- Joe

 

I just liked having cars that run forever..........look how many 9C1 Caprices are out there with 300k plus miles on them. To me they were cheap, reliable, fun daily drivers.

 

Anyone interested in buyn a b4 1le camaro????