hey guys, i have a 88 GTA with a 350 tpi, 700r4 trans, 3.45 gears, and i am starting to get my parts for my motor build up.....heres what i was thinking...

Superram (upper)-$780
edelbrock manifold-$375
Accel 8.8 wires-$69
slp #25 injectors-$99
BBK 52mm TB-$295
64cc sportman II iron heads w/ .600 max lift-$479ea.
Crane 1.6rr (self aligning)-$191
LPE219 cam (219/219 duration .560/.560lift w/1.6rr)-$340
B&M tork mster conveter..tork master 2400-$240

what kinda of power can i see with this set-up, will my trans be abloe to hold the power, or should i spring for the B&M tranny for $1700....my trans was rebuild about 3 years ago and has about 10-15000 miles on it....also will those heads and cam still allow me to pass emissions....i have my egr still hooked up, car has edlebrock TES 1 3/4 headers with AIR tubes, going to 2 cats,to my h-pipe w/morosso spirl flows/exit infront of rear tires.....then a custom prom tuning for my buddies shop.....what kinda of E/T s do u think i cold hit on motor? thanx for all the help

dave

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if u have any suggestions to perfectmy set-up please do so...

 

Go with the LPE 219 cam with the superram. It will pass emissions with a cat, I've done it. Have the sportsman heads ported to flow 260-190 @ .500 lift and you should run good. Beachbum had this same combo with 3.07 gears in a corvette with 10:1 comp and ran mid-high 11's. You don't need the self-aligning rockers, you need regular rockers.

Stay away from the b & m convertors, a friend broke one running high 12's-13 flat, it's not built to take punishment with sticky tires.

 

yea i was looking at that cam as well, just didnt like its cost.....as forthe torque converter, canu suggest 1? i only wanted to go toabout 2500 stall cuz its mostly a summer drivin car, and i normally drive it on the expressway to go to the track, so i figured that i wouldnt burn the verter up too much wih it being 2500.........thanx for the advice after i tally everything up i most likely will go with the lpe219 cam...

tahnx
dave

 

Try to find a used 2800 stall, maybe a vigilante or yank or something.

Don't worry about burning up your tranny, it won't happen. I have run a 3500 stall for years and cruise way below the 3500 rpm stall speed. Even did it with a non-lockup tranny with no problems. I wouldn't get anything lower than a 2800 stall.

 

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Go with Trick Flow 23* heads. You will have no problem passing smog. Sportman II heads will not pass smog unless they are on a Corvette or use the same EGR style as on the Corvette.

 

really? i didnt know that, but i was leaning more on staying with cast iron heads, mostly cuz they are cheaper ($1500 as to $900), but also because i have a180 t-stat, and still worry that my car might over heat and worp the heads....i only got to have my car out for 1 week since i did the porting, and replace my radiator and t-stat so im not sure on what temps i might hit at the track and in stop and go traffic.....if those heads arn't good for egr, then can anyone suggest a good cast iron head to go with my set up and will be emissions legal and egr freindly.....lol....b4 i was going to use vortec heads but found out that there would have been modifying that was needed to mount the superram to the scoggin-dickie manifold......also ithink i will go with the 2800 stall vigilante converter, i might jsut buy it new.......do u think my stock tranny will hold the power or should i get the B&M built tranny that holds 450 hp?.......also, i just saw that about the slp injectors and most likely i will go for those injectors....thanx for all the feedback too guys......



dave

 

Do they still sell those?
Im pretty sure they have been discontinued for a while now.

Edit: Well, i looked on their website and just found them. I think its a good bargain if they still have them stocked.

 

another vote for the trickflows.....flow better than the sportmans and with a proper cooling system you shouldnt have to worry about overheating.

and the cam you originally picked out seems a bit too big, you are putting this on your 350 correct?

my sugestion would be to call comp when you do decide on your heads and get a suggestion on a cam from them. then call them again, and call them again. depending on who helps you you willget three different suggestions (at least i did, and i called them back another two times )

 

if i do go with the trickflow 23 heads, then i most likely will get the cnc ported ones that hold up to .600 lift...they are part # tfs-30400007-cnc+ at sumit racing...that or maybe i'l save up and get the afr195 heads from TPIS, but im still not too sure, still lookin for cast iron heads if i dont find any good ones then ill go with the alluminum....and i will also go with the LPE219 cam with the set-up...and yes its all going on a 350 L98.

dave

 

Stay away from the b&m 700r4. If you want one locally, I can't remember the name of the shop, but there is a good builder near you, everybody can't and doesn't build a good 700r4. Try pro-built.

 

Trick flows are only $1050 if you get the plain versions. You can port them yourself for the same amount of money as the cnc'ing. They still sell the SLP 25 lb hr injectors, work well. I like the trick flows, once I properly took care of all of their "issues." From what I have read the TFS's can flow much better ported than a ported set of ported AFR's. I am about to port a set of my TFS's and there is still a bit that can be done.

 

the TFS heads that i need, are the ones with the .600 max lift springs and they are 1235.95..so i might jsut get those..i ported my l98 heads and i'll most likly just port them my self.....i will look into pro-builts 700r4 as well....the shop i took my trans to get rebuilt 3 years ago was percision transmissions, and it cost 1400 for the rebuild...needed new torque converter, 2nd and 4th band, they also tweaked my shift kit, and put a vette servo into it.........i dont know what a stock 700r4 can handle as to power so thats why i am looking into a new 1..........thanx for all the feedback too guys...keep it up..

dave

 

The LPE219 cam ain't s#$t. I beat that cam with the ZZ9cam.

My friend set up - Super Ram, $2000 190 fully ported AFR's, LPE219cam TPIS Big Mouth Manifold, LT1 6speed, 3.42 gears.

My set up- Super Ram and TPIS Big Mouth Manifold extrude honed, Trick Flow 23* heads mild ported, ZZ9 cam, T5 Trans, 3.45 Gears. I beat him by 2 cars in every race. We both had modified chips to fit our engine combo.

 

I forgot, what is the duration on the ZZ9 cam?

 

it says that specal push rods are needed for the trick flow heads, so does anyone know whick push rods to get??


thanx
dave

p.s. the zz9 specs are

Duration at .050 212 226
Gross lift .483 .520
Lobe separation 112

 

You will have to do some measuring to know which size pushrod you'll need and it all depends on how the cam was reground.

 

ok cuz most likely im going with the lpe219 cam w/ 1.6 rr...can anyone tell me how te vaccum and idle is on that cam as well???


thanx
dave

 

I have the LT4 "Hot" cam and it idles great, with work on the ecm. Sounds almost, normal.

 

Same here. A little lopey but pretty much normal.

 

also i forgot that i maybe spraying it as well with 75-100 shot...when ever the car is done, after the ram air II hood and box are installed, rust taken off, and suspension upgrades, the car should be show and go..lol......jsut have to get the funds for everything now...lol


thanx again for allthe posts guys

dave

 

The lpe 219 cam is more aggressive than the tpis cams.

Also, if you are going to go with nitrous, don't listen to the people who say you need a cam with a 114 lsa, it's not true. Cam the car for n/a first, then spray it. You will lose some power with a nitrous cam unless it is a track only car and you plan on spraying it everytime you drive it.

 

The converter I recommend for your application is the modified Corvette converter available through LPE or Rossler Transmission in Girard, Ohio. I used that converter behind my 383 and was able to generate consistent 1.6 60 ft. times.

As for trans work locally, you can call Don Stanley at TSI in Elmhurst. If you can ship the trans, call Carl at Rossler Transmission.

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Go with any cam. I think the exhaust side of the cylinder heads would have more of a say than the exhaust side of a "Nitrous" cam.

 

im pretty sure about going to the LPE 219 cam and like i said i'll be doing street and strip racing, have to pass emissions, and will run a few straight up races and a few nitrous.....this car is my "summer fun" car, i drive it locally, and drive it to the track....so i think as soon as i am done with my set-up, it will be a nice toy, hopefully able to hit mid 12's on motor and 295/65r/15 M/T drag radials on weld rodlite rims, and suspension mods....(hotchkis 1" drop springs, hotchkis rear suspension package, kyb agx gas struts, spohn sub-frame conectors, and strut tower brace)......

dave