This is my set-up tell me what you think:
335 Stroker
Edelbrock High-flo TPI Intake manifold for vortec heads-ported
Edelbrock E-Tec Heads
Edelbrock High-Flo Runners-ported
Ported Plenum
Edelbrock Performer RPM Cam.

 

Yeah! Perfect setup, exactly what I'd do. Let us know how it does when you're back on the road with that killer powertrain, should be good for mid-12's and a real surprise to the 350 guys.

 

LOL... It will perform... as much as a 335 will... W/ those same mods and a 350 though... it would perform better.

 

ignorez da haterz, 335 is where its at!! It'll rev to the moon and roast Mustnags all day long!!

(ps: you might want to do a search on 335 stroker and see if maybe this has already been discussed)

 

Your fortune cookie says...You'll find your wallet lighter and your heart full of disappointment.

 

explain reddevil?

So you guys don't think that cam is too big?

 

The cam is fine, it is just that on here everyone discouarges the 335 or any 305 based buildup. You will always get the famous "You got that much into a 305 and could have got more out of a 350." or "Spend that amount of money on a 305 and double it with a 350". Stuff like that.
I personally don't see the problem with doing something that you want. Sure the other way(350)would be a better buildup but who cares its for you. That what you wanted right?
I myself am going to do a 335 stroker against all odds I will try to get some decent power from it knowing that the 355 or 383 is better but knowing that I want to be different and try something new at the same time. Try it and be happy.

 

ARRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!

 

By the way edelbrock cams's suck. Go with a Comp or Crane.

 

No discouragement from me, I think it's a great idea!!

Go go go!

 

Do you get a discount on Edelbrock parts???


I'd use the base but thats it.

Throw some SLP runners on them (cheaper) and you'll probably hog them out anyways...

Also, why not try a ZZ4 cam. $130 on ebay. Great cam for TPI 350, I imagine it'd make a 335 scream.

 

After almost two years of watching Ebay for discount 335 stroker parts, I've given up. I found a 350 block for $150 already machined 30 over, align bored, and new cam bearings and freeze plugs put in. I then found some low CR 383 pistons for $100 (used, but perfect shape). The 335 pistons were going to cost $250 at the cheapest place I ever found, so for the same $250 I've now got a 383 instead of a 335. Only difference is now I have to sell the Mustang 19# injectors I had already purchased and find some SLP take offs or used 22# LS1's on "The Bay"...

 

I would spend a little more cash and get the ASM(Arizona Speed and Marine)runners. The SLP and the Edlebrock runners are not as good though still better than the stockers.
Theres three of us rooting him on GO! GO! GO!

 

I sa DO IT. That is what I'm planning on doing this summer is the 335. How much are u planning on this running you. The one kit that I found has all the needed replaced parts minus cam for 900. Is ur anywhere near this or do i needa look somewhere else?

 

Even stroked the 305 based applications all suffer from shrouding. Dollar for dollar you'd get more out of a bigger bore 305 than the one you are stuck with. That's one of the reasons why the Mustand 302s respond so well when the 305s suck donkey *****.

If you are going to do all the machine work et al still, you might as well spend another $50 and go with the 350 block. It will pay bigger divedends than most 305 nuthuggers will admit too.

 

You just want to bag more people for more money at the track! What's under the hood there Kev?

 

Just helping lemmings to the cliff.

I'm only packing 11 more cubes than the 335 anyway, should be a close race, right?

 

Are people too damn ignorant to see that the prices are the same if not more for a 305/335 setup than a 350 or 355 build. W/ less cubes that equals less torque under the curve, and is just a bastard setup. If you choose to do it, more power to you. I almost did. Then I wised up and looked at all the money I would spend to get about 50 less hp than a 350 at least, and spend more money b/c 350 parts are more abundant and cheaper...

But do as you please... Just don't get mad when you get an I told you so from 90% of the guys here...

 

All that work to your 355 and you're barely a tenth faster than me.

Whos got the bastard setup?


sorry if I sound like a dick, but its true.

 

And IIRC stock chip as well... and still a tenth faster.

 

Point, I have a hyperjunk. Big deal.


I still have stock unported LB9 heads, stock untouched TPI, stock 19lb injectors with 180k on them, stock FPR, .210/.220 and .480/.480 lift 112LSA. Full weight, 2.73s, stock suspension(at the time), 3/4 tank of gas and full size spare/jack in the back.

Want me to keep going?


My thoughts = if you can get a 350 then build that. If your DEAD SET on a 305 build then go for it. Whatever floats your boat. My car willl have a big inch 4" based motor once this one gets tired.

 

my stock 305 with bolt ons trapped 100mph. when it had less mods it did a 13.9 @ 97. not to far behind you with stock TPI stock heads and a stockish cam.

 

LOL... alright... so 13.9 @ 97 is close to mine... what was the ET w/ the 100mph trap? What are the mods you have? Stock my 305 did 14.8 w/ MINOR bolt ons. No intake or exhaust mods. So I am interested to see what your mods are.

As you might can tell, or maybe you can't... my setup is not done. No excuse there... note, not an excuse... W/ header and intake the car will trap another 7-8 mph, and will also be a LOW 12 second car. Can you say that about your 305. We can get in a pissing match all damn day about guys that throw money into a 305, and get close to a 350. Key word... CLOSE... but not there. No one will ever convince me a 305 has the same potential as a 350 based motor. Basically... a 350 w/ the same amount of mods, and similar mods will ALWAYS perform better than a 305...

This is why I don't get in on these convos much, b/c there is always THAT GUY who has the 305 that runs w/ the 350 guys. LOL... THAT GUY!!! I am still yet to see one.

Back to regularly scheduled pissing match now...

 

I never said a 305 is better to put money into or has as much potential. A 350 is much better.

But don't knock a combo when you have bigger/better parts into yours and don't run the times to back it up. I know your car is hurtin from those manifolds. Its not rocket science. And who's to say my car won't pick up a bunch of MPH from heads and intake also?

Seems to me, the money spent with your heads/custom cam could have been better spent thinking of a better way to make your car more efficient with what it already had.

I usually don't get into arguements but give credit where its due please.

 

You need to make sure your sit back and realize when comments are marked towards you and when not. The previous post was not, but since you felt he need to blast my setup... LoL... oh well.

Is that so?? LoL... Where to start? So... what... add headers to the 305 and still be slower than the times I have now. Cam and headers maybe? What did you run? 13.49 is what your sig says... hmmm... i pulled a little more trap speed and et out of a choked setup...

Please refrain from telling me how to spend my money. The point of my 355 was to get a tired POS 305 out of the car. To get a setup that I saw going nowhere out of the car. Yes that is my opinion. Sure I could have worked w/ the 305... but why... just my $.02.

HEADERS and intake... get it right. Your car will pick up mph from a set of HEADs and headers... but what heads are you going to run? Not TOO many options for a 305... a few, but not many. All I know of are World Products, and maybe another... IIRC maybe a small AFR head too... still have valve shrouding problems to deal w/... 4" bore doesn't have that problem... Another issue... airflow requirements... even w/ heads to fill the 305 w/ the air it needs, a 350 has a 15% greater air requirement, meaning 15% more fuel... its not rocket science... you figure out where I am going.

Where is that?

You are doing well w/ the 305... I will give you that. But... why do you say you will end up w/ a 350 when the 305 goes out. You go to great lengths to defend it... but then you are going 350 instead of rebuilding the 305? Whys that?

I am sure this is going to be seen as a hostile post by you and those reading... Not meant to be that way... to a point... I told the guy to do what he pleases. I won't belittle him for building a 305. Its his choice. I may try to give him some information that might lead him to the 350 instead.

I am all for build what you got... but please be sure to look at all the options and $$ before just jumping in. Mine ended up more than a 305 b/c I scrapped my budget and ended up w/ the heads I got... If not then the 305 and 355 would have been similar...

 

It's cool man, I just wanted to point out some things. I would have just done things differnetly, but i don't know your situation.

You pulled more trap speed, but you also have a big cam and aftermarket heads...and more cubes. I would expect that.

I dont wanna be hostile but I just wanted to say that just cause its a 335 doesn't mean its a "bastard setup". I've just seen wayy to many modded 350's run crappy times since ive been around these cars. It's all about the combination.

PS i ran 13.413

 

I call a LT1 a bastard motor by the way too... so take it lightly when I say that!!! My point in that comment is that there are not THAT many aftermarket parts for a 305. A ton of stuff is interchangable for the 305/350, but not key parts like heads in MOST situations.

To be honest, I didn't expect my car to pull what it did. I expected 13.5s at best w/ the intake/exhaust manifolds. The cam is way too big for this setup, but I had to spend my intake/header cash on a transmission, so that stuff got put on hold.

Key word you said is combination. Tons of people do not realize that. I am all about playing w/ the cam selection etc to get a correct combo. The guys I see w/ crappy times should get their heads otu of the Summit catalog and quit listening to much to the commercials during the Power Block... But I know where you are coming from...

 

Oh i absolutely agree. Thats part of the reason my car still has the stock heads /intake on it. Nobody makes the parts.

I just think its a little silly when people refuse to mod the 305's. I mean why mod a 350 then? You could build a 400 and have a bigger bore AND stroke. You get the idea. It just gets me heated sometimes.

 

It's not quite the same thing. If someone had a 400, I'm sure they'd be using it before they used a 350. The problem is that 350s are more common than dirt, and 400s aren't.

 

just talking **** dude take it easy

 

For all the people pissing on people about being stupid for even thinking about building a 335 stroker. ****ing BLOW IT OUT YA ***!
EVERYONE in there right mind knows that BUILDING A 350 based motor would be a more race type engine, MAYBE SOME JUST want to be a litte individualist and different like myself and build what every the hell they want. AND for the count, I do plan on eventually building a 383 stroker for my Iroc but right know I am still in college so money is tight. I want to through on some heads a cam and a 125 shot of nos for the "bet you cant grab that $100" acceleration.
***!!
Some people just try so hard to get everyone else to have the same thoughts that they do.

 

Has nothing to do with 'race' and everything to do with engineering. Guess you missed my post, or am I one of the ones that should blow it out my ***?

 

If money is tight, why waste it on a stroker crank for a 305? Keep the factory crank, put some decent pistons in it and put the juice to it.

30 more cubic inches isnt gaining you squat at this point except a larger hole in your bank account

 

Just look what Tim Burgess has done with his stock bottom end 305

 

The guy asked what you thought about the setup not to be humilated. Yeah we all know that the 335 is not going to do what a 350 is going to do, I am sure he knows that but maybe he just wants to see hat can happen. Lets try and focus on what he wants to do and not what we all think that he should do. Just my .02.

 

Yeah Jim did a hell of a job with that car I agree

 

Thank You!!
PLEASE FOCUS on what I ACTUALLY ASKED.
Not if a 350 is better than a 305, everyone knows it is Smart GUYS.

ALWAYS TRYING TO Force your thoughts on someone.

 

Oh really?!?!?! Then what was this quote for?



I think people have been telling you what they think. You asked for opinions, you got 'em pal!

I've heard the arguments all before and I've stood behind most of my own arguments when I was building my own 335 (on the cheap). The problem is, other people just don't buy the "I want to do something different" line of crap.

Build it, or don't build it. Just stop complaining when you ask for people's opinions and they give it to you.

 

THE BOARD IS STARTING TO NO LONGER TO LOOK Helpful. ISNT THIS SUPPOSED TO BE a place where we get together to discuss coming issuses of our F-Bodies?

 

13.70@97 w/ bad plug wires/plugs, running WAY rich.

stock 416 heads
only 310 cubes

has run several 100mph passes with better tune and old converter/gear combo

should run 13.3's when i get the tune figured out. faster with a larger cam and some porting. mine is pretty tiny at 214/224 .442/.465