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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 01:38 AM
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Fuel injectors for 500HP 383 with 150NOS on top of that

Like the topic says im looking for what size fuel injector i will need for my car. The motor alone will make about 500HP, i am also planning on putting a 150 shot of nitrous on top of that, so then 650. I currently have 30 pound injectors, i got them before i decided on the nitrous, but they are brand new so i can return them. I have also like the ford racing injectors, but they don't come in 36# flow ratings, would the 42# injectors be too large? I know i will have to do tuning either way, but i want what is best for the engine, then tune it perfectly. What about racetronix? Are there injectors of the same reliability?
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 02:37 AM
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I dont know what size injectors you need but if its a wet nitrous setup, then the nitrous kit will supply its own fuel when you hit the switch. Then you just need to figure out how much fuel for the engine.
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 08:09 AM
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The 30's are on the small side for 500hp to begin with. The 42's would be small for the 650 if it's a dry shot that doesn't boost the pressure regulator.
The 42's on an adjustable regulator set at about 55+ psi would be about enough, but doing it with a factory ECU isn't easy by any means. What kind of nitrous kit will you be using? If you're using a dry kit that boosts the fuel pressure when nitrous is on, you can just size your injectors for the naturally aspirated power level (36's would be close to enough).
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 12:02 PM
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I was thinking about going with the wet nitrous setup from NOS

EDIT: Im going to convert that set-up to dry nitrous.

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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 12:35 PM
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I come up with about 39# needed for 500hp. The 42#s would be your best bet if that's the only size larger.
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 12:46 PM
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After doing some further reading, a wet system isn't as safe or reliable with a superram, so i am going to covert the wet system to a dry system. So all the fuel distribution will be left up to the injectors. What size now? I do have an AFPR, but i don't want to set it too high, especially if the nitrous kit is going to increase the fuel pressure.
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 12:58 PM
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ive never heard of a dry system being better than wet, can you give me the reasons? i dont know jack about nitrous, im just curious
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 01:05 PM
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Specifically when using the superram, which has a very large plenum compared to other tpi systems, a wet system which injects fuel before the superram, will tend to have the fuel puddle up in the superram. There are good articles on it that i just finished reading in the power adder board.

So as far as the injectors go........500 HP + 150 dry nitrous.....What do you guys think?
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 01:45 PM
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650hp requires ~51# injectors, but not sure how that would work out when not spraying.

Have you checked into NOSs nossles; they spray fuel and nitrous directly into each cylinder head port.
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 07:13 PM
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The ZEX dry kit will boost the fuel pressure during nitrous, if I recall correctly. I've never used it. That would let you size injectors for the NA motor. Read up on the power adder board for the nitrous questions.
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 10:19 PM
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Originally posted by pellmanm
Specifically when using the superram, which has a very large plenum compared to other tpi systems, a wet system which injects fuel before the superram, will tend to have the fuel puddle up in the superram. There are good articles on it that i just finished reading in the power adder board.
crazy...thats opposite of what little i know about nitrous
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