Shouls I just get a 58mm throttle body because it's nearly th same price as a 52mm?
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Shouls I just get a 58mm throttle body because it's nearly th same price as a 52mm?
I'm about to order a new throttle body and was wondering if I should just buy a 58mm one instead of a 52mm one because they are only about $20 different in price. What do you think? I'm not sure if I'll ever need the 58 but it's only a little more. It wouldn't hurt performance any, would it?? Also, can the plennum be ported enough to match a 58?
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Rob
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1987 IROC-Z Auto (LB9)
Black/grey with the stance of a streetfighter
Mods
Custom exhaust. 4 Inch pipe from the headders all the way back to a single muffler at the rear. No Cat.
Future mods:
K&Ns
RAM Air
New Underdrive pulleys-either March performance pulleys or Auto Specialties Performance
Air foil
Thanks for the time
Rob
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1987 IROC-Z Auto (LB9)
Black/grey with the stance of a streetfighter
Mods
Custom exhaust. 4 Inch pipe from the headders all the way back to a single muffler at the rear. No Cat.
Future mods:
K&Ns
RAM Air
New Underdrive pulleys-either March performance pulleys or Auto Specialties Performance
Air foil
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Why spend all that on a TB when u could get other things that would give your car more HP?? The TB doesn't restrict as much as u think, especially for a 305. There are cars making more than 500HP with a 48mm TB, and they are 350's.
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If you want to kill power, sure go get the 58.
I see from your sig you have an 87 with exhaust. An airfoil is probably your best bet, followed up by the 52 if you plan on porting and a cam in the near future. The 58 on a 305... well, a 305 that would need that you would not want to drive on the street.
I see from your sig you have an 87 with exhaust. An airfoil is probably your best bet, followed up by the 52 if you plan on porting and a cam in the near future. The 58 on a 305... well, a 305 that would need that you would not want to drive on the street.
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a 58mm TB will kill your air flow velocity. your cylinders will not fill up as well as they could and you will lose power even a 52 is too big for a stock intake 305 IMO
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I agree with the others, you are not anywhere near needing a TB yet, you would be better served to spend your money elsewhere.
And i'd love to hear an explanation from 88 on how a 58mm TB will hurt velocity and torque.
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And i'd love to hear an explanation from 88 on how a 58mm TB will hurt velocity and torque.
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92 Z28 Convertible - Quasar blue / Tan top
LB9 4L60 GU2 G80 - stock, soon to be sleeper
- Definitely prototypes, high powered mutants of some kind. Too weird to live, too cool to die
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He's right the 58 mm will hurt him. 58mm tb's are for cars in the low 12's high 11's. 52 is fine for mid high 12's-high 13's. other than that the stock is fine.
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SUPERCHARGED 87 GTA: Blk/Gld w/Superam, 355cid Trickflows, forged pistons 9.5:1. Auto 2,600 stall, 3.45 9 bolt disc, Best time & mph (Naturally Aspirated): 13.567 @ 101.900 w/ a poor 60ft. Best mph: 104.3 *This car is 100% NYS emissions legal, w/ all emissions controls!* "If you want to have a fast car, hang out w/ those who do!"
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VORTECH S-TRIM, INSTALLATION IN PROGRESS: 10 & 15 LB> PULLEYS, CUSTOM HKS RACE BYPASS, CUSTOM DUCTING W/ COLD AIR, SWAPPING TO SERPENTINE, & MANY EXTRAS! BEST TIME: 11'S I GUESS. WE'LL SEE IN SPRING!
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SUPERCHARGED 87 GTA: Blk/Gld w/Superam, 355cid Trickflows, forged pistons 9.5:1. Auto 2,600 stall, 3.45 9 bolt disc, Best time & mph (Naturally Aspirated): 13.567 @ 101.900 w/ a poor 60ft. Best mph: 104.3 *This car is 100% NYS emissions legal, w/ all emissions controls!* "If you want to have a fast car, hang out w/ those who do!"
http:// www.community.webtv.net/munks87/JustinsGTApage.com
VORTECH S-TRIM, INSTALLATION IN PROGRESS: 10 & 15 LB> PULLEYS, CUSTOM HKS RACE BYPASS, CUSTOM DUCTING W/ COLD AIR, SWAPPING TO SERPENTINE, & MANY EXTRAS! BEST TIME: 11'S I GUESS. WE'LL SEE IN SPRING!
To make you feel better, GM has a 48mm t-body on the ramjet 502 that makes 500+ horsepower. I'd spend that 300 bucks on something else!
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'87GTA w/ SLP Cold Air, MSD Coil, Airfoil, Gutted MAF, AFPR, TES Headers, HI-FLOW CAT, Flowmaster Catback, Energy Suspension Master Bushing Kit
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Car: Red 87 IROC-Z28 T-Top
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Your car would get better results just by porting the plenum, airfoil, and airbox mods. 
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I'm waiting for my AFPR, K&Ns and my RAM AIR to come through. I'll be porting the plennum and gasket matching everything too. As I'm getting a cam change in the summer I figured it would be better to get a 52mm throttle body than just the air foil.
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Transmission: 700R4 Auto
Axle/Gears: BW 9-Bolt 3.27
No, just get the airfoil, its a 305 not a 383. U could spend that money on things that would actually make your car faster. 
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84 TRANS AM 305 H.O.
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